Evan Ferguson F West Ham (loan from Brighton) b.2004

[Exgrad]

no, we definitely dont. And I would agree with you that it would be a bit arrogant. I was just speculating - - but there is clearly beef there in some way based off of Hurzeler's comments.

I think the beef is that Ferguson wants out? Maybe its not too much more past that. When he has been fit the manager has messed him about at times givining him 4 or 5 minutes at the end of games, bit of a joke really and would **** off any player.

[rebelmusic]

There was a bunch of rumours that Welbeck had a row with Hurzeler over the way he was treating Ferguson as well - not confirmed from what I know.

Sometimes managers just have an irrational dislike for a player. Trapattoni Vs Andy Reid as an example. Cultures clash etc. Regardless it clearly isn't working so good for him to be getting out

[Snapshot]

He needs to go somewhere where he would be likely to start every week and get a run of games. So not Chelsea.

It's difficult to believe clubs such as Chelsea or Arsenal see Ferguson as anything other than bench fodder - which is his current status at Brighton. Relegation-threatened clubs also would be similarly stingy with game time if impact wasn't immediate.

I'm disinclined to believe Hürzeler has personal dislike or bias. He's a manager lumbered with a striker who doesn't strike. That's exactly why Ferguson is not in the Brighton team and why, if it continues elsewhere (following a very brief honeymoon period) he won't last in any other EPL team. Going to the continent at this stage of his career would stack even more weight on young shoulders.

That leaves the Championship where the tolerance level by a promotion hopeful would be about four/five starts max. Difficult as it is to swallow, even that looks challenging for the Evan Ferguson we've witnessed this season.

[liamoo11]

It's difficult to believe clubs such as Chelsea or Arsenal see Ferguson as anything other than bench fodder - which is his current status at Brighton. Relegation-threatened clubs also would be similarly stingy with game time if impact wasn't immediate.

I'm disinclined to believe Hürzeler has personal dislike or bias. He's a manager lumbered with a striker who doesn't strike. That's exactly why Ferguson is not in the Brighton team and why, if it continues elsewhere (following a very brief honeymoon period) he won't last in any other EPL team. Going to the continent at this stage of his career would stack even more weight on young shoulders.

That leaves the Championship where the tolerance level by a promotion hopeful would be about four/five starts max. Difficult as it is to swallow, even that looks challenging for the Evan Ferguson we've witnessed this season.

Brighton are a shambles today. Ferguson looking the fittest I've seen him in a year . Hopefully gets a move brighton just don't make chances for central striker , everything is wide looking to drop front man into midfield and put runners from midfield and wide into the box into the central striker area.

[Eirambler]

brighton just don't make chances for central striker

Seems like the kind of tactics that will get you beat 7-0 alright.

[Jolly Red Giant]

Brighton are a shambles today. Ferguson looking the fittest I've seen him in a year . Hopefully gets a move brighton just don't make chances for central striker , everything is wide looking to drop front man into midfield and put runners from midfield and wide into the box into the central striker area.

It is pretty clear that Hurseler is not up to the job - Brighton fans are screaming that it is obvious that he completely out of his depth and want him sacked. If that is a possibility then I suspect that Ferguson won't go anywhere - they wait until they appoint a new guy to the job (and the preferred option among the fans seems to be McKenna).

[seanfhear]

It is pretty clear that Hurseler is not up to the job - Brighton fans are screaming that it is obvious that he completely out of his depth and want him sacked. If that is a possibility then I suspect that Ferguson won't go anywhere - they wait until they appoint a new guy to the job (and the preferred option among the fans seems to be McKenna).

Brighton are in bad shape at the moment ~ The manager must be under serious pressure now ~ You may have strong point about keeping Ferguson now until they get a new manager, if they get a new manager.

[liamoo11]

It is pretty clear that Hurseler is not up to the job - Brighton fans are screaming that it is obvious that he completely out of his depth and want him sacked. If that is a possibility then I suspect that Ferguson won't go anywhere - they wait until they appoint a new guy to the job (and the preferred option among the fans seems to be McKenna).

I think evan needs to take responsibility though as well. His fittest levels this season really were woeful up to Christmas. When you have an ankle injury you can still have professional level fitness from.the b8ke, pool running, the anti gravity treadmills etc. Very unprofessional how heavy and unfit he has been. That's on him. Bit on the bright side looked so much lighter and athletic today. Hecwoukd score lots of goals at arsenal

[joey B]

Joining West Ham on loan till the end of the season,no option to buy though….

[John83]

West Ham ‘reach agreement’ for Arsenal, Chelsea forward target with ‘medical’ set
https://www.football365.com/news/wes...ighton-medical

Not sure why the scare quotes on any of that.

[The Fly]

Joining West Ham on loan till the end of the season,no option to buy though….

He’ll get lots of game time which is the main thing, and if he (fingers crossed) does well then he’ll have increased/restored his value.

It’s a big opportunity for him.

[Fizzer]

Yeah, quite interesting that it’s a loan with no option/obligation to buy. Could be viewed in a number of ways, e.g. if Brighton are resigned to losing him, they don’t want it to be for a knockdown price. If he rips it up at West Ham his value will shoot back up. It could also mean that they’re beginning to look at the manager a bit, he hasn’t exactly been a roaring success, Brighton are more or less where they were position wise at the end of last season but they don’t appear to me to be quite as good and as seen yesterday are vulnerable to a trouncing which suggests more than just an off day.There’s definitely some kind of transition going on. I was a little concerned at Brighton’s seeming anxiety to offload Ferguson as it suggested some kind of long-term or permanent problem, particularly injury-wise. I’d be inclined to view developments in the past 24 hours as being fairly positive on that front.Main thing is that he’ll play and is going back to a manager in Potter who knows him and will have him playing to his strengths. There’s no doubt but that the kid is very, very good and if he stays fit and scores goals, the biggest and best in Europe will open the wallets wide in the summer.

[The Fly]

Assuming it’s all gone through without a hitch, it’ll be interesting to see whether he’s playing tomorrow night

[Acornvilla]

Assuming it’s all gone through without a hitch, it’ll be interesting to see whether he’s playing tomorrow night

I reckon he'll still be a sub until next week at the earliest given his lack of games. Decent move, West Ham are far from the worst team in the league and he'll get good opportunities given their striker situation.

[Stuttgart88]

Brighton might be in bad shape, but Evan looks leaner and fitter than I’ve ever seen him.

[The Fly]

I reckon he'll still be a sub until next week at the earliest given his lack of games. Decent move, West Ham are far from the worst team in the league and he'll get good opportunities given their striker situation.

Yeah, I suppose I meant whether he'll play tomorrow night, as opposed to 'playing' which implies starting.

Having said that I wouldn't be shocked if he actually did start.

[Jolly Red Giant]

Yeah, quite interesting that it’s a loan with no option/obligation to buy. Could be viewed in a number of ways, e.g. if Brighton are resigned to losing him, they don’t want it to be for a knockdown price. If he rips it up at West Ham his value will shoot back up. It could also mean that they’re beginning to look at the manager a bit, he hasn’t exactly been a roaring success, Brighton are more or less where they were position wise at the end of last season but they don’t appear to me to be quite as good and as seen yesterday are vulnerable to a trouncing which suggests more than just an off day.There’s definitely some kind of transition going on. I was a little concerned at Brighton’s seeming anxiety to offload Ferguson as it suggested some kind of long-term or permanent problem, particularly injury-wise. I’d be inclined to view developments in the past 24 hours as being fairly positive on that front.Main thing is that he’ll play and is going back to a manager in Potter who knows him and will have him playing to his strengths. There’s no doubt but that the kid is very, very good and if he stays fit and scores goals, the biggest and best in Europe will open the wallets wide in the summer.

There is not option to buy because Tony Bloom isn't convinced that Hurzeler is up to the job of manager - if Hurzeler is replaced in the summer then keeping Ferguson gives more options to the new manager.

[The Fly]

Yeah, I suppose I meant whether he'll play tomorrow night, as opposed to 'playing' which implies starting.

Having said that I wouldn't be shocked if he actually did start.

Update: West Ham's match against Brentford on the 15th will be his debut if all is signed and sealed.

[Eirambler]

It's just a three month loan really then. Mid February to May. West Ham out of all cups so he'll just have the 14 or so league games to make an impression, in a team that are already well clear of relegation trouble but are also miles off the European places. A low-pressure environment for him to play in is probably the positive aspect of that situation I guess.

[Olé Olé]

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...box=1739577609

Interesting quotes from Potter on Ferguson. All bodes well for him to hit the ground running.

Will be a pleasant surprise if he starts today at home to Brentford.