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    Quote Originally Posted by John83 View Post
    We're not quite there yet.


    I can't find it now, but an older video featuring the Nao robots saw one shuffle and shuffle and shuffle with the ball at the half way line, before it falls over, clipping the ball, which then rolls the length of the pitch and into the goal.
    I love robot fail videos. In fairness, humanoids are better now, almost a decade later. Robot footballers' incompetencies are due to Moravec's Paradox - high-order reasoning (e.g. performing complex maths) requires very little computation, but sensorimotor and perception skills (walking across a field without falling over) require enormous computational resources. It's very counterintuitive and often expressed as 'the hard things are easy and the easy things are hard.'

    So much of our knowledge of the world is built-in and we are not conscious of it. This is why you get AI experts like Yann Lecun saying stuff like (paraphrasing) 'Forget human level intelligence, first we need to achieve the intelligence level of a cat.' Advice some footballers -not Evan, of course-- would do well to heed.

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    We need a separate thread on robot footballers, as this conversation is beneath Evan! Anyway, New paper in Nature the other day about motor control for robots, which includes all-action graphics from the heart of a robot football match. Real roy of the rovers stuff (/s)

    In this paper, we have demonstrated this with our extensive simulation, where a full-body humanoid robot is able to transport boxes, open doors, operate facilities (e.g., conveyor belts) within a warehouse setting, play soccer, and even continue operation under physical damage to the robot body," Li said. "Our study demonstrates the power of nature where the inspiration of how different cortexes work together in our brain can help the design of smart robot brains."

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    Documentary released by Brighton
    https://youtu.be/0QNoBGlnXvk
    Embedding has been disabled for the video, so can only link

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    Anselmo Garcia MacNulty and Evan Ferguson feature in the list of 270 names to watch closely from CIES Football Observatory
    https://football-observatory.com/MonthlyReport90

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Anselmo Garcia MacNulty and Evan Ferguson feature in the list of 270 names to watch closely from CIES Football Observatory
    https://football-observatory.com/MonthlyReport90
    Let's hope he is back in the starting line up first of all

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    Let's hope he is back in the starting line up first of all
    Doesn't start tonight either. Not overly concerned. That list demonstrates how unique a talent he is in his position.

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    On as a sub and wins a penalty that Pedro converts. Lo Celso tripped him from behind as he was striding onto a ball passed to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Doesn't start tonight either. Not overly concerned. That list demonstrates how unique a talent he is in his position.
    We have to remember he's still only 19. Would rather Brighton manage him correctly and he's still doing it a high level in his 30s. How many lads burst onto the scene as teenagers and by the time they're 30 are nearly finished.

    I know injuries can play there part which Ferguson has had a couple already. He's still getting good minutes and setting records.

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    starts today against stoke

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    Hasn't had much luck but, then again, Joao Pedro has scored two goals thar Ferguson really should have in his locker.

    Part of the problem, at times, is that he clearly is told or he is seeking himself to occupy space between two of the central defenders and as close to them as he can. Give them something to pay attention to and that makes life easier for the runners.

    Not much doing for the confidence the past few weeks. Looking forward to him getting the gander back up and scoring soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JR89 View Post
    We have to remember he's still only 19. Would rather Brighton manage him correctly and he's still doing it a high level in his 30s. How many lads burst onto the scene as teenagers and by the time they're 30 are nearly finished.

    I know injuries can play there part which Ferguson has had a couple already. He's still getting good minutes and setting records.
    He's a striker. Goals are his bread and butter. Right now he's a batch loaf short of a good meal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mark12345 View Post
    He's a striker. Goals are his bread and butter. Right now he's a batch loaf short of a good meal.
    He may not be scoring at the moment - but he is still playing to a very high standard. Brighton fans regularly regard him as the best player on the pitch.

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    Probably nothing in this but the tabloids are all carrying that Chelsea are interested in Ferguson and Brighton are looking for £100m. Makes the top of the Guardian rumour mill and all!

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...lhinha-zirksee

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    I think I'd nearly rather see him stay on the Brighton bench than go to Chelsea.
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    In the last 18 months Chelsea have spent over £200m on Brighton players and staff. Wouldn't surprise me if they try bring that spending to over £300m this year.

    Don't think Ferguson's camp will be in a rush for him to leave Brighton. Still only 19 and said in the summer I could see him staying with Brighton till the summer of 2025.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    I think I'd nearly rather see him stay on the Brighton bench than go to Chelsea.
    Defo, this is like Doherty's move to spurs
    If it isn't broken don't fix it

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    Wonder do Bohs have a sell on fee..
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    Wonder do Bohs have a sell on fee..
    They do. Somewhere in the region of 8% I think. Kevin's will get a nice chunk as well.

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    There's not a lot in the article, no quotes from anyone at Chelsea, not even a "club insider". They, and every other club, monitor promising young players across Europe, so it would be more newsworthy if they'd decided to ignore him. If I had to guess, the premier league is on a break at the moment, there's only a few games this weekend, and the paper needed to fill space.
    You could do a find and replace in the article with Chelsea and any other top six club, and it would still be valid, apart from the transfers between Chelsea and Brighton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    I’m 99% certain it’s 10% sell-on. So at £100-£120m it would be about €11.5-£14m. Not chump change.
    Nigel and OTOH ^^

    Since had it confirmed it’s 10%. I'd hope he stays and becomes a £100m-£120m player.

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