Just announced on Newstalk - Rovers future at Dalymount

**pete** · 08/06/2005, 11:38 AM

Originally Posted by Macy

They're not really though - they're going guarantor in effect. The FAI pay Bohs, Rovers pay the FAI.

Fair enough but not fair that FAI even acting as guarantor as be surprised if would do for "Provincial" club. If true is also a disgrace that FAI loaned cash to SRFC.

**WeAreRovers** · 08/06/2005, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

We will soon see

Have you not learned anything over the last 5 years?

The difference this time is Examinership - it's now gone legal meaning we go out of business or start afresh with new owners. That's the whole point.

And yes, we've learnt a lot over the past five years. That's why we used the 400 Clubs financial muscle to get rid of Maguire and co and to effectively save the club in the short term.

How do you lot plan on reducing your €2 million debt? A raffle maybe?

KOH

**R�iteoir** · 08/06/2005, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by Macy

They're not really though - they're going guarantor in effect. The FAI pay Bohs, Rovers promise to pay the FAI. Rovers don't pay tha FAI. The FAI let Rovers off.

Fixed

**Macy** · 08/06/2005, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by R�iteoir

Fixed

That's the FAI's problem with not enforcing it, and carrying on acting guarantor.

**Slash/ED** · 08/06/2005, 11:51 AM

I can't believe you're all falling for well placed Ollie Byrne propeganda, Rovers have no hooligan problems whatsoever. This incident clearly did not happen, it was Sporting Lisbon fans, can you not tell the difference?

**WeAreRovers** · 08/06/2005, 12:15 PM

Originally Posted by Slash/ED

I can't believe you're all falling for well placed Ollie Byrne propeganda, Rovers have no hooligan problems whatsoever. This incident clearly did not happen, it was Sporting Lisbon fans, can you not tell the difference?

No one's denying what happened on Friday which is totally different to Ollie's fantasies re the Setanta Cup Final. Go back to sleep, Ollie will wake you up when he needs your sycophantic support again.

KOH

**Slash/ED** · 08/06/2005, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

No one's denying what happened on Friday

Actually as ever people are, read your own board. "It's the gardais faul!" "No wait, it's the Bohs fans fault!" "Ah sure nothing happened anyway, they were only taking a stroll!" "Bohs ran away hahaha....not that there was anything to run away from, sure nothing happened, and it was everyone elses fault anyway" and all of the usual sh*te that follows when Rovers are involved in an incident, ie, everyones fault but your own, and sure nothing happened anyway.

**WeAreRovers** · 08/06/2005, 1:52 PM

Sorry to disappoint you, I said No one's denying what happened on Friday the argument is over who's to blame and why it happened.

Ollie, on the other hand, made up his accusations out of thin air which is why we challenged him and got the evidence to back it up.

BTW where's Ollies evidence about the said incident? We're still waiting.

KOH

**Slash/ED** · 08/06/2005, 1:54 PM

Sorry to disappoint you, I said No one's denying what happened on Friday the argument is over who's to blame and why it happened.

I'll help out the investigation so.

1) The rovers fans who ran at the Jodi stand

2) Because they're thugs.

Another case closed.

**BohDiddley** · 08/06/2005, 2:04 PM

Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

Sorry to disappoint you, I said No one's denying what happened on Friday the argument is over who's to blame and why it happened.

Ollie, on the other hand, made up his accusations out of thin air which is why we challenged him and got the evidence to back it up.

BTW where's Ollies evidence about the said incident? We're still waiting.

KOH

Now that you're back on topic, having failed in your bizarre attempt to divert the thread into a discussion of Bohs' finances and yours, is it fair to ask, since you don't deny it, whether you condemn or even disown the actions of those SRFC supporters involved?

**aido_b** · 08/06/2005, 2:37 PM

Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

The difference this time is Examinership - it's now gone legal meaning we go out of business or start afresh with new owners. That's the whole point.

And yes, we've learnt a lot over the past five years. That's why we used the 400 Clubs financial muscle to get rid of Maguire and co and to effectively save the club in the short term.

How do you lot plan on reducing your �2 million debt? A raffle maybe?

KOH

A Rovers fan bragging about how well his club is doing! Lets put this into perspective ... Rovers are doing **** in the league, They may well be thrown out of Dalymount in the next few days, They have crippling debts, They have a half finished stadium. Anyone care to add anything else,

KOH get your own shop in shape and then start slagging off other clubs problems, its fans like you and those other scum who took part in Fridays bull**** who give Rovers and the League a bad name.

**Macy** · 08/06/2005, 2:39 PM

Originally Posted by aido_b

KOH get your own shop in shape and then start slagging off other clubs problems

Couldn't that be aimed at Bohs and the BSC too though?

**WeAreRovers** · 08/06/2005, 3:13 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Now that you're back on topic, having failed in your bizarre attempt to divert the thread into a discussion of Bohs' finances and yours, is it fair to ask, since you don't deny it, whether you condemn or even disown the actions of those SRFC supporters involved?

I brought up Bohs finances because it's another example of the head-in-the -sand attitude at Bohs eg. Rovers are going out of business and no mention of your own €2 million debt. The same goes with Rovers are scum and no mention of the Bohs scum who recently hospitalised a number of Rovers fans.

Bohs hypocrisy sickens me and has done for nearly 30 years. Nothing ever changes in D7. Nobody was hurt last Friday, whereas the same can't be said for the incident at the Mill a few weeks ago.

As for me condemning or disowning Rovers fans over last Friday, you'll have a long wait. NOBODY WAS HURT. Have a look at your own house first and cut out the sanctimonious guff (although I think it's inherent with Bohs fans)

KOH

**Slash/ED** · 08/06/2005, 3:50 PM

Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

I brought up Bohs finances because it's another example of the head-in-the -sand attitude at Bohs

As for me condemning or disowning Rovers fans over last Friday, you'll have a long wait. NOBODY WAS HURT.

Brilliant.

**BohDiddley** · 08/06/2005, 3:59 PM

Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

I brought up Bohs finances because it's another example of the head-in-the -sand attitude at Bohs eg. Rovers are going out of business and no mention of your own �2 million debt. The same goes with Rovers are scum and no mention of the Bohs scum who recently hospitalised a number of Rovers fans.

Bohs hypocrisy sickens me and has done for nearly 30 years. Nothing ever changes in D7. Nobody was hurt last Friday, whereas the same can't be said for the incident at the Mill a few weeks ago.

As for me condemning or disowning Rovers fans over last Friday, you'll have a long wait. NOBODY WAS HURT. Have a look at your own house first and cut out the sanctimonious guff (although I think it's inherent with Bohs fans)

KOH

Ah, the old 'nobody died' line. (Second time today I've read that, the first, incidentally, was on the Bohs MB as a justification for the KRAD policy!). So we should wait until someone is hurt until this is taken seriously?
The Mill was, by all accounts, an arranged meeting between your so-called casuals and ours, and in this context is a red herring. Nevertheless, I'm happy to say that I despise anyone behaving like that in Bohs' name even more than I despise your hooligans, because they bring our club into disrepute. That is a view shared by other Bohs fans, and surely by all right-thing football supporters when it comes to the hoolie element in their clubs. But it's hard to find a hoop who isn't inclined to indulge some form of apologia for your thugs. Worse, going by the rhetoric on your MB, many of you are openly proud of them.

**superfrank** · 08/06/2005, 4:10 PM

I don't know why Bohs fans are complaining so much, their fans are hardly exemplary either.

There's the whole Bray incident. Fans storming the pitch, inciting our fans, shouting in player's ears, etc.
And they only got fined 200euros!!!!!

**BohDiddley** · 08/06/2005, 4:14 PM

Really, that's just silly.
We could go into how those who took part were criticised by other Bohs fans and by the manager, something which has yet to happen in the case of SRFC, but the two events simply do not compare.

**superfrank** · 08/06/2005, 4:17 PM

You're right they don't compare. The Bohs fans were alot worse.

**Slash/ED** · 08/06/2005, 4:25 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Really, that's just silly.
We could go into how those who took part were criticised by other Bohs fans and by the manager, something which has yet to happen in the case of SRFC, but the two events simply do not compare.

In fairness, Bohs need to do more to. Fans is one thing, but your board at this stage surely know who those casual godbsh*tes are, why do they still put up with them?

**joeraki** · 08/06/2005, 4:29 PM

Originally Posted by BohDiddley

Bohs need this hooligan virus hanging around Dalymount like we need a hole in the head. Of course we need the money: what EL club doesn't? But we, and the rest of the league, do not need to be associated with scumbags.

So I take it the bohs casuals have finally gone away, never to be seen again ??

I've seen these scumbags first hand at a game. never mind fighting but drug dealing of all things !! I seen it outside the toilets near the main bar at a game back in April v Cork. A little group of them all huddled round handing out bags of white powder then going into the toilets, a few of them would of been teenagers but the guys handing it out certainly weren't, I was coming out of the toilets at the time and just went back into the bar. I happened to mention it to someone, answer I got was "sure that goes on every game" like it was no big deal.