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    Satan was lined up for it but felt it would damage his reputation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    The thing with JD though which I havent heard answered yet is could he face charges for the sins against Irish football? In other words could he go to prison for such criminal behaviour?!
    Probably the easiest thing to get him on would be non-disclosure of all the benefits-in-kind he's received, as that is clearly tax evasion.

    As Al Capone showed, often the easiest way to take down a gangster is via their tax file.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    It's the payments to the girlfriend that will get him. Money ended up in his own account. That's a hard one to explain away.
    100% this is the biggest problem for him.
    All the rent, parties , legal expenses he can cover himself by saying the board signed off on it.

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    It seems that stuff like the rent is what the FAI got stung on the tax for - so Revenue said the FAI paid Delaney nett amounts and had to gross it up.

    Wasn't it an extra million or so in salary that the revised accounts stated?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    One error in the book of note "Dundalk, managed by Stephen Kenny, had become the first LoI club to qualify for the Europa League group stages...".
    Sometimes errors are so small as to be not worthy of note.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    This book is made for a TV drama! Who'd play Delaney? Aidan Gillen did a fine job of playing that other scoundrel CJH!
    Yes, Gillen would be ok but I would rather Joe Rooney. He has those rolling wild eyes that Delaney has.

    Might take a while to make the screenplay complete as the story has a bit to rumble. All depends on the tax squeeze avalanche about to tumble forth and if there is a desire in Gov circles to recoup a loss that might take years to recover. Just easier to go after the non- lawyered up ordinary Joe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    100% this is the biggest problem for him.
    All the rent, parties , legal expenses he can cover himself by saying the board signed off on it.
    That may work from a corporate governance perspective - but not with the Revenue. If he didn't declare all the 'benefits in kind' that he received over the years, he will hopefully find himself with a big fine, a demand for back payment, and possibly also a bit of jail time too (though that is unlikely unless the sums were really big).

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    I kinda hope he continues his games and obstruction of imvestigations as if he annoys enough people, including the judge, they might just be incentivised enough to throw the entire book at him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    That may work from a corporate governance perspective - but not with the Revenue. If he didn't declare all the 'benefits in kind' that he received over the years, he will hopefully find himself with a big fine, a demand for back payment, and possibly also a bit of jail time too (though that is unlikely unless the sums were really big).
    That's not the way it works unfortunately, he is a PAYE worker if his employer supplies him with benefits the employer is supposed to pay the tax on the benefits, just like it pays the tax on his monthly salary

    When he allegedly diverted money from a supplier (his girlfriend) (that was not approved by the board.......you would have to hope) to his own account this will be hard to explain particularly as she is denying having gotten any money and is unlikely to back up some concocted story

    He may say he helped her with the work hence took money she was going to give him anyway or something like that but she would have to back him up.....
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    Its not always down to the organisation to ensure tax on benefits is paid? Unless its unusual I know one person who was landed a 20k revenue bill upon retirement and seeking his pension as expenses hadnt been declared. This was a national organisation that would be highly regarded and appreciated by the people in need of their support.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Its not always down to the organisation to ensure tax on benefits is paid?
    It usually is. Here's Revenue's PAYE guide

    Section 9.1 says -

    9.1 Employer’s duty to deduct tax and USC
    It is the employers’ duty to calculate and deduct the tax and USC, if any, due from the pay, including notional pay, of every liable employee. It is important to remember that ‘employee’ includes both a director and an occupational pension recipient.
    There is guidance on nett payments somewhere, but I can't find it. But the BIK on the rent in particular is I think why the FAI got stung with a huge tax bill (and had to declare huge extra JD remuneration)

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Sometimes errors are so small as to be not worthy of note.
    I think it's a major error to get something like that wrong. Just read the first chapter and have spotted a couple of factual errors re. The League of Ireland. Rather like most of the people it describes, the book is a bit shoddy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    It usually is. Here's Revenue's PAYE guide

    Section 9.1 says -



    There is guidance on nett payments somewhere, but I can't find it. But the BIK on the rent in particular is I think why the FAI got stung with a huge tax bill (and had to declare huge extra JD remuneration)

    Sure what would an artist like you be worrying about tax for Stu, surely that is a thing of the past for you

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    Need to work out how best to use those tax losses

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    In this book is there much mention about Joe Delaney Im wondering?
    Daire Doyles red and black army

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    Early on there is a chapter called Sins of the Father which is an outline on the Joe messing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    In this book is there much mention about Joe Delaney Im wondering?
    Chapter at the start and he has a cameo at the end.

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    Anybody notice that the author of the 'report' that recommended splitting the CEO into two jobs, one for JD with all the gravy, and the other for anyone at all prepared to be led by the new Exec VP was ... recently touted possible new CEO Jonathan Hall?

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    Quote Originally Posted by littlebray View Post
    Anybody notice that the author of the 'report' that recommended splitting the CEO into two jobs, one for JD with all the gravy, and the other for anyone at all prepared to be led by the new Exec VP was ... recently touted possible new CEO Jonathan Hall?
    Who is Jonathan Hall never heard of him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    Who is Jonathan Hall never heard of him?
    Himself and Daryl Oates wanted it, but it was too hard to handle. It was said to make their dreams come true, but something wasn't quite right about them.

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