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    Quote Originally Posted by samhaydenjr View Post
    Wow! Two crackers in his first competitive outing against senior opposition. And still only 17. Could he be even better than what we have coming through already? Somebody from the FAI really needs to sound out his intentions - this is one lad we really don't want to lose for want of trying.
    He does look very promising at the moment. I wouldn't be surprised if he's playing first team football either at West ham or on loan in the Championship by the end of the coming season.

    He's another striker though so while it would be disappointing if he doesn't want to play for us its not likely to be a disaster. In fact in all the central positions on the park we seem to be stacked with potential talent waiting to burst through. Unfortunately in the wide positions there's much less to get excited about.

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    Do we really have to start this "flight risk" conversation every time a dual-eligible player does anything of note?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Do we really have to start this "flight risk" conversation every time a dual-eligible player does anything of note?
    People Clip Chickens Wings when they are a Flight Risk !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Do we really have to start this "flight risk" conversation every time a dual-eligible player does anything of note?
    Unfortunately, it's going to be a question that every dual national player will face from now on, and not just Irish players. Are you going to stay with Turkey/Morocco/Ireland, or are you thinking of declaring for Germany/Belgium/England?
    We've benefited and lost from the rules, as have most other countries, and it's just something we're going to have to get used to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Unfortunately, it's going to be a question that every dual national player will face from now on, and not just Irish players. Are you going to stay with Turkey/Morocco/Ireland, or are you thinking of declaring for Germany/Belgium/England?
    We've benefited and lost from the rules, as have most other countries, and it's just something we're going to have to get used to.
    Correct, but we must be the only country to every lose a senior international player that we wanted to keep?

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    Wilf Zaha?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    Correct, but we must be the only country to every lose a senior international player that we wanted to keep?
    Harry Arter
    Michael Obafemi
    James McCarthy
    Aiden McGeady
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Wilf Zaha?
    Nacer Chadli would be another that comes to mind. I'm sure there are more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Harry Arter
    Michael Obafemi
    James McCarthy
    Aiden McGeady
    None of whom played senior international football for another country.

    I'm referring to Rice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Wilf Zaha?
    England didn't want tbf.. maybe later but when he defected he wasn't wanted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    None of whom played senior international football for another country.

    I'm referring to Rice.
    misread it as "lose every international that we wanted to keep"
    There's a list of players who've been capped by two associations here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...national_teams
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Two quality finishes from Ademipo Odubeko, and an outrageous long range lob from Conor Coventry, in West Ham U21s win over Southend in the FA Trophy last night
    Goals at 0:07, 1:22, and 1:44

    An interview with him on West Ham's website today - https://www.whufc.com/news/articles/...ve-worked-hard - does describe him as an "Irish youth international".
    Doesn't mean he's still part of the underage setup here, or that he's not thinking of changing allegiances, but it's good to see.
    His former club-mate Sotona has left United, having rejected a 3 year pro deal with them. Disagreement over the wages he was looking for and what the club were prepared to pay.

    Probably not the worst thing to leave. If they valued him highly enough to give him a realistic shot of a breakthrough, they probably would have been willing to give him £10k per week. United clearly isn't the worst place to develop right now with the likes of Greenwood, Williams, Gomes and Chong all progressing well last season - but you'd imagine he could go to another premier league side where there's a genuine pathway to first team football.

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    So the U23 season is officially up and running as of today with five Irish lads in the squads:

    Will Ferry set up the winning goal for Southampton against Arsenal, while Thomas O'Connor also played for The Saints. Mark McGuinness lined out for The Gunners, with Jordan McEneff on the bench: https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2...ague-2-2020-21

    Meanwhile Oisin McEntee played for Newcastle against Middlesbrough: https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-n...ugh-under-23s/

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    Quote Originally Posted by samhaydenjr View Post
    So the U23 season is officially up and running as of today with five Irish lads in the squads:

    Will Ferry set up the winning goal for Southampton against Arsenal, while Thomas O'Connor also played for The Saints. Mark McGuinness lined out for The Gunners, with Jordan McEneff on the bench: https://www.southamptonfc.com/news/2...ague-2-2020-21

    Meanwhile Oisin McEntee played for Newcastle against Middlesbrough: https://www.nufc.co.uk/news/latest-n...ugh-under-23s/
    Wondering if Ferry and O’Connor are being kept around because they’re potentially considered to move closer to the first team like Smallbone and Obafemi or if loan moves will arrive in the future...

    Interesting that the likes of Ledwidge in particular and Keogh weren’t involved...

    Good to see McGuinness captain Arsenal. Weird to like a player and think he has a chance while also only rating him as our 20th best centre back prospect or something...

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    McGuinness should benefit from Mavropanos's loan move to Stuttgart and see regular action for the U23s this season.

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    Mark Travers between the sticks against Blackburn.

    Interesting to see Derrick Williams back in the Blackburn team. He'll be centre half beside Lenihan.

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    Who’s this Sean Roughan chap? Anyone with insight? Makes his league one debut at 17 with Lincoln City

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_c12000 View Post
    Who’s this Sean Roughan chap? Anyone with insight? Makes his league one debut at 17 with Lincoln City
    Scully just scored for Lincoln.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy_c12000 View Post
    Who’s this Sean Roughan chap? Anyone with insight? Makes his league one debut at 17 with Lincoln City
    Young lad from Dublin, moved over last year after being scouted playing schoolboy football in Dublin. Probably playing at the moment due to injuries to others but still a big achievement at 17 and apparently going well again today.

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    Sounds like both Bazunu and Travers are having absolute howlers today unfortunately. They've shipped 5 between them so far and almost all should have been saved by the sounds of it.

    On the plus side Idah has scored for Norwich.
    Last edited by Eirambler; 12/09/2020 at 4:43 PM.

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