QuoteI have lost all respect for Israeli football ! what I seen out there last night was a disgrace. Israel should be ashamed of themselves !! they can take no pride in gaining that one point
Bless you for your optimism. Our pessimism stems from past history.Many of us here remember Euro 1992 when Ireland were unbeaten and failed to qualify. Similar scenario seems likely here.Originally Posted by Shae_B2D
As regards being unbeaten and failing to qualify.... here's one for Gerrit.....
Belgium failed to qualify for the 1974 World Cup... and did not even concede a goal in the qualifiers how sick is that? Two 0-0 draws with Holland who went on to play in the WC Final in Munich.
I have lost all respect for Israeli football ! what I seen out there last night was a disgrace. Israel should be ashamed of themselves !! they can take no pride in gaining that one point
Not quite a matter of perspectives. If you accept that O´Brien should not have had a red card then it follows that you admit that the keeper did his utmost to cheat, fake an injury and get him sent off.
If he gets high marks for a performance that included all of that, then it is sad.
I did see those antics with Ben Alim twice, did he also get high marks for getting Trezeguet sent off?
Those cynical antics are not as commonplace as you might think in International football, but are similar to what we experienced with the Iranian team.
The worst we have seen with a goalkeeper feigning injury was with the Iranian goalkeeper here in the play off for the 2002 WC. Probably because we won the game his antics of repeatedly falling to the ground are not remembered with anger.
We did not win this one and we had 45 minutes to get a goal. No amount excuses cover that.
As for the blood (alleged), remember the South American qualifier where the goalkeeper cut himself and claimed he was struck by a missile :-)
As for Keane , he was bundled over but we did score immediatly after, so a penalty would not have mattered.
The player Benayoun is an exceptional player, lovely to watch, deserves high marks, the most skillful player on the pitch but most definitly Tal was man of the match. What about Pinball (Pini Balili), what jail did he escape from? He makes our Lee Carsley appear handsome and skillfull. :-)
Your thread was deleted for a reason, which I explained to you in a private message. Very well then, since you want to act the hurt little boy, I'll explain it in public for you. You came on here trolling, looking for a wind-up, and that's against the rules. If you don't like it, don't come back. I shouldn't think you'll be missed.
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Hear Hear. And fair f*cks to the fella that had a go off the goalie at the hotel. I'm not a volent person, but i know i would have
That kind of behaviour puts me off international football as a whole, which is a sad situation to find myself in. Cheats, at any level, are b@stards. At Cork City, we've had the infamous Dan Connor to deal with. I used to get angry, then i realised one day that he's the loser. When he retires in a decade or so, he'll be remembered as the 'cheating dancing one'. Same applies to Twátu or whatever he's called. He's the loser in the long run lads, remember that.
And a nation who see him as a hero are even bigger losers...
what happened ???nd fair f*cks to the fella that had a go off the goalie at the hotel. I
You have some very good players (undoubtably Benayoun and Tal) but your'e insight into Israeli league soccer could explain an enviorment where Pini Balili could be regarded a star :-)
This particular way of time wasting and the type of theatrics are more alike football in the Arab world than European.
If you are going to fall apart some time in the group then why not at the Faroes next September?
As they say there is still some football (hopefully) to be played out in this group.
After 7 yellow cards, any suspensions?
as for remarks about flags etc... i dont agree with them being there. But i do recall union jack flags being waved in Ramat Gan
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Then he fell off his barstool :-)
Hear Hear. And fair f*cks to the fella that had a go off the goalie at the hotel. I'm not a volent person, but i know i would have
That kind of behaviour puts me off international football as a whole, which is a sad situation to find myself in. Cheats, at any level, are b@stards. At Cork City, we've had the infamous Dan Connor to deal with. I used to get angry, then i realised one day that he's the loser. When he retires in a decade or so, he'll be remembered as the 'cheating dancing one'. Same applies to Twátu or whatever he's called. He's the loser in the long run lads, remember that.
And a nation who see him as a hero are even bigger losers...
Very glad to see several Israeli's telling it how it really is and how they are disgusted with his antics!
Good post mate-KEEP THE FAITH!
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Well I hope he did and someone gave him a proper kicking
The Israeli media is a load of WáNK !! Did anyone read that sh1t they are writing ??
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Did you? where?Well I hope he did and someone gave him a proper kicking
The Israeli media is a load of **** !! Did anyone read that sh1t they are writing ??
read the sh1t here
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/584252.html
And how did you expect them to report the match? If that's as bad as the Israeli media gets (and I doubt it, but that's by the bye) then I'll swap Haaretz (or whatever it's called) for each and every one of the "Irish" Mirror, the "Irish" Sun and the "Irish" Star.
Now, who's media is ****?
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we are in World cup 2006, You're probably not.
yay.
That website should get it's facts right....we haven't lost at Landsdowne since 93? Mick'll be delighted to hear that.
"With the minutes ticking away, the Irish frustration boiled over, and referee Kyros Vassaras of Greece sent off Ireland defender Andy O'Brien in the 85th minute for an apparent elbow on Awat.
The Racing Santander goalkeeper was the hero of Israel's game. He was injured on several occasions as he fell desperately at the feet of the Irish strikers to deny them sure chances at goal."
So its true, he was not faking it after all :-)
Really?From a financial point of view, FIFA must be down on its hand and knees praying for Ireland to qualify - tens of thousands of fans, no trouble and a huge boost to the economy.
In Basel in the 3th of September there will be 10,000 fans from Israel, and if we will qualify for world cup there willbe between 10 to 25,000 Israely and jews there.
Here we start again....We are not counting Swiszerland since yesterday night...Israel the arroGrant!!!!!
The reason why Awate was Israel's hero last night is that he did make two amazing saves.
I think that it was innapropriate from him to fake in that O'brien incident but appart from that incident he did not fake as much as you think he did.
True, maybe he did waste a couple of seconds but he was seriously injured and it was well shown on T.V.
Anyway, there was a 7 minute stopage time and I think that wasting time never works. It should have been that way but Israel was lucky as Ireland didn't gain the 3 points that it deserve.
Somehow we keep play poorly but in this campagne we manage to get some decent results.
I belive Ireland has more chances on finishing first than us finishing second.
And despite your anger, I still wish you good luck in the future as it is very important to maintain the good relations between us.
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