Israel match thread

[hamish]

u're all making a mistake talking politicaly
it doesn't concern to the game
please come down , and talk football
lets be objective and agree on the fact
israel played badly
ireland should have won
awat did some undecent deeds
that's all
hope the things wont effect between those two countreis
cause i know that israel realy crazy about ireland.
and carry on in our life

Good man.

Must be the alcohol but I do sense a universal vibe of good fellowship percolating this thread now.

All together now:

Everyone is beautiful
In their own way............

[liam88]

I'm afraid this lack of circumspection from Irish supporters is absolutely typical and only to be expected. You must understand that this is not a football nation, and consequently, the populace often fails to display a keen understanding of certain footballing realities (such as the often arbitrary nature of many international games.) Hence, the hysterical scapegoating of players/managers/opponents which invariably follows disappointing results.

In the light of the comments concerning Awat (who, incidentally, is a appallingly sub-standard 'keeper and cost Israel a place in the play-offs back in 2001 when he was flummoxed by Herzog's telegraphed free-kick) it's amusing to reflect upon the strikingly ironic fact that Ireland failed to win the game primarily as a result of Robbie Keane's self-inflicted injury, which resulted from a dive. BTW, if Awat deserves an Oscar, then it's surely the award for Best Visual Effects. Because I'm pretty sure I saw claret leaking from his nose.

ha, ha ha, ha ha ha, hahahahahaha......shut up negative man

hmmmm in light of the comments concering Awat(e) yah, yah, [SIZE=6]HE'S A CHEAT-DEAL WITH IT AND STOP FISHING![/SIZE]

[Yigal]

OK, here's my point of view on the game (and something beside it):
Israeli team (and sorry for starting with this team, but hey, it's my national team, so it's natural): played like hell, no creativity in the middle, passes went usually backwards, no sharpness in attack, too defensive line-up (well, it's OK for an abroad game) and a poor keeper (well, I think everything was told about him in an earlier threads, and mostly I agree with them, so no point to start this discussion all over again). The only bright side today was Yosi Benayoun (IMHO).
Irish team: great desire to win the game, even with 10 players, no luck with some balls, didn't receive a well deserved penalty kick (in the first minutes, when Benado fouled somebody in the 16 (sorry, don't remember who it was)), fine work on attacking (but again, less of luck). On the other hand, somewhat dirty play by some players (nerves, nerves, nerves...).

Conclusion: Israel didn't deserve a tie, Ireland deserved to win. But this is football, and these sorts of things happen.

And now to that "something beside it": I was really disappointed to see palestinian flags on the stadium, raised by some of the Irish fans. This is supposed to be a sporting event and it's a shame on those fans who decided to mix up sports with politics, especially after a warm and friendly welcome Irish fans received in TA (and I don't think anybody can argue with that). I don't want to generalize, but those fans make all of you a very bad name. I don't think Israelis deserved this kind of welcome.

[hamish]

I'm afraid this lack of circumspection from Irish supporters is absolutely typical and only to be expected. You must understand that this is not a football nation, and consequently, the populace often fails to display a keen understanding of certain footballing realities (such as the often arbitrary nature of many international games.) Hence, the hysterical scapegoating of players/managers/opponents which invariably follows disappointing results.

In the light of the comments concerning Awat (who, incidentally, is a appallingly sub-standard 'keeper and cost Israel a place in the play-offs back in 2001 when he was flummoxed by Herzog's telegraphed free-kick) it's amusing to reflect upon the strikingly ironic fact that Ireland failed to win the game primarily as a result of Robbie Keane's self-inflicted injury, which resulted from a dive. BTW, if Awat deserves an Oscar, then it's surely the award for Best Visual Effects. Because I'm pretty sure I saw claret leaking from his nose.

Wish I had such a vocabulary

Indeed his nose was bleeding but it was his carry on at other times that annoyed me.

Sheridan, have to agree with you in all honesty. What was that Shakespeare said about the mote in one's eye?

And please, don't start quoting William. Please.

[Ron Amikam]

(who, incidentally, is a appallingly sub-standard 'keeper .

First, not a sub, first. Next season in Viareal. (but a terrible goaly... )

[Gareth]

I am as disappointed about the game as any of you are, and I do think I nearly put my fist thru the screen when the keeper went down for the umpteenth time holding his *fill in any part of the body that was not in contact with anything but air* however that is were my anger ends. Sport is Sport and once you start dragging it down to politics well then you basically are ruining the game. If you don't like Israel as a nation outside of a football game, go onto a different chatboard. I am sure people can find some.

[Gareth]

Because I'm pretty sure I saw claret leaking from his nose.

Awh the physio put it there. They were not ordinary cotton wool buds rammed up there Pre-soaked probably. For Effect!! So the award for Best Visual Effect indeed goes to......

[liam88]

OK, here's my point of view on the game (and something beside it):
Israeli team (and sorry for starting with this team, but hey, it's my national team, so it's natural): played like hell, no creativity in the middle, passes went usually backwards, no sharpness in attack, too defensive line-up (well, it's OK for an abroad game) and a poor keeper (well, I think everything was told about him in an earlier threads, and mostly I agree with them, so no point to start this discussion all over again). The only bright side today was Yosi Benayoun (IMHO).
Irish team: great desire to win the game, even with 10 players, no luck with some balls, didn't receive a well deserved penalty kick (in the first minutes, when Benado fouled somebody in the 16 (sorry, don't remember who it was)), fine work on attacking (but again, less of luck). On the other hand, somewhat dirty play by some players (nerves, nerves, nerves...).

Conclusion: Israel didn't deserve a tie, Ireland deserved to win. But this is football, and these sorts of things happen.

And now to that "something beside it": I was really disappointed to see palestinian flags on the stadium, raised by some of the Irish fans. This is supposed to be a sporting event and it's a shame on those fans who decided to mix up sports with politics, especially after a warm and friendly welcome Irish fans received in TA (and I don't think anybody can argue with that). I don't want to generalize, but those fans make all of you a very bad name. I don't think Israelis deserved this kind of welcome.

Good man-good post, I agree (except with the "these sort of things happen" your keeper really is an animal"
What more can I say you summed it up well! Well done
Really proud to speak to Israeli fans who can accept what happend and speak the truth-like I said before I have all the time in the world for ya. Sorry about the Palestinian flags on behalf of my fellow fans. It's a shame your fans had to boo Ian HArte after the brilliant recpetion they gave our fans in Tel Aviv

[brine3]

i'm not annoyed with the israeli team, more the israeli goalkeeper and the referee. and all 12 israeli medics, who seemed to be waiting like sprinters perched on blocks to come on whenever your man in goal broke a fingernail.

besides all the carry on with the goalkeeper, fair play to israel

thank god jorg stiel is retired, i can't take any more of this acting

[hamish]

OK, here's my point of view on the game (and something beside it):
Israeli team (and sorry for starting with this team, but hey, it's my national team, so it's natural): played like hell, no creativity in the middle, passes went usually backwards, no sharpness in attack, too defensive line-up (well, it's OK for an abroad game) and a poor keeper (well, I think everything was told about him in an earlier threads, and mostly I agree with them, so no point to start this discussion all over again). The only bright side today was Yosi Benayoun (IMHO).
Irish team: great desire to win the game, even with 10 players, no luck with some balls, didn't receive a well deserved penalty kick (in the first minutes, when Benado fouled somebody in the 16 (sorry, don't remember who it was)), fine work on attacking (but again, less of luck). On the other hand, somewhat dirty play by some players (nerves, nerves, nerves...).

Conclusion: Israel didn't deserve a tie, Ireland deserved to win. But this is football, and these sorts of things happen.

And now to that "something beside it": I was really disappointed to see palestinian flags on the stadium, raised by some of the Irish fans. This is supposed to be a sporting event and it's a shame on those fans who decided to mix up sports with politics, especially after a warm and friendly welcome Irish fans received in TA (and I don't think anybody can argue with that). I don't want to generalize, but those fans make all of you a very bad name. I don't think Israelis deserved this kind of welcome.

Good point and fair summary.

Repeat my earlier point, I'm sure the Israeli fans are having a great time in Dublin right now so don't worry about the few who did boo - vast majority respected both anthems. Well, that's the impression I got from the TV anyway - hope I'm right.

[Ron Amikam]

Hey, u deserve en easy win but some how (well, we started with miracles and wonders in the history), it was 2-2. We hope u will bit France and the Swiss, u will go to the world cup and we to the playoff. fair?

[liam88]

Hey, u deserve en easy win but some how (well, we started with miracles and wonders in the history), it was 2-2. We hope u will bit France and the Swiss, u will go to the world cup and we to the playoff. fair?

Sounds good to me mate Fair play to ye!
Goodnight

[pineapple stu]

What is the ****ing conection with my nation?

Eh?!

He is your national goalkeeper. Your national team represents your nation. How can you not see the connection with your nation? The Irish players represent their nation (BACK, Éanna! ) and never give up, always give 100% and play in a fair manner with tremendous passion. The Israeli players represented their nation and chose to do so by rolling on the ground like women. If that's how you want your nation to be portrayed, then congratulations. You've succeeded. A disgrace. There is no place in football for nonsense like that. If he broke his nose - substitute him! Simple as that! It was interesting to note that after he was booked, he was suddenly alright, was able to take kickouts in under five minutes for once and was able to stay on his feet.

[go israel]

Eh?!

He is your national goalkeeper. Your national team represents your nation. How can you not see the connection with your nation? The Irish players represent their nation (BACK, Éanna! ) and never give up, always give 100% and play in a fair manner with tremendous passion. The Israeli players represented their nation and chose to do so by rolling on the ground like women. If that's how you want your nation to be portrayed, then congratulations. You've succeeded. A disgrace. There is no place in football for nonsense like that. If he broke his nose - substitute him! Simple as that! It was interesting to note that after he was booked, he was suddenly alright, was able to take kickouts in under five minutes for once and was able to stay on his feet.

israeli sports site: "awate the hero of the game"

[Ron Amikam]

Eh?!

He is your national goalkeeper. Your national team represents your nation. How can you not see the connection with your nation? The Irish players represent their nation (BACK, Éanna! ) and never give up, always give 100% and play in a fair manner with tremendous passion. The Israeli players represented their nation and chose to do so by rolling on the ground like women. If that's how you want your nation to be portrayed, then congratulations. You've succeeded. A disgrace. There is no place in football for nonsense like that. If he broke his nose - substitute him! Simple as that! It was interesting to note that after he was booked, he was suddenly alright, was able to take kickouts in under five minutes for once and was able to stay on his feet.

Its football not a Gelian football, in football there is no place for elbow in the nose. Awat using franch pasport so there in no conection to my nation

[pineapple stu]

israeli sports site: "awate the hero of the game"

Well, how encouraging to see the fools posting on this site in support of such a disgraceful display are inded indicative of general Israeli sentiment.

[livehead1]

classic, pineapple. the keeper made some quality saves, but hes awful and shud have saved hartes freekick. hes cr*p!!!

[Ron Amikam]

israeli sports site: "awate the hero of the game"

In 1958 we played in Cardif for the world cup, and the goaly, Hodorov, broke is nose by John Charls. He was an hero in that game but we lost 2-0. I prepere "disgrace" with 2-2 than "hero" with 0-2.

[pineapple stu]

Its football not a Gelian football, in football there is no place for elbow in the nose. Awat using franch pasport so there in no conection to my nation

If you're referring to the Andy O'Brien incident late on, then it's worth noting that that in no precipitated the keeper's initial antics - he'd been acting that way for the whole half.

He plays for your national team. He represents your nation. End of story.

I'm going to bed. And then to the Faroes! It'll be nice to see opponents who understand fair play.

[Ron Amikam]

good luck mate!