Would be hard for Kenny to leave Kelleher out if he was starting every weak for Liverpool but the reality is he will be back on the bench for the foreseeable once Allison is available.
In the absence of Kelleher playing games it would be harsh for Kenny to drop Bazunu in the absence of some obvious goal conceding errors (Not conceding due to luck is easy to forgive) given he has dug Kenny out of a hole at times.
First reaction is pretty much what you allude to - as a decent cb, you're expecting your keeper, an experienced one at least, to deal with all 3 comfortably, even the third where a more powerful keeper comes and claims the ball, man and all.
It's easy criticism to throw at him to be fair, without saying that there is no merit to it, which there is of course. Again, as you say, it's what you hope he will learn from.
That said, he does appear to have shown a tendancy to lose crosses in at least 2 or 3 games he's played for us, even if it's only once in each game.
On the more speculative (on all our part, not yours) subject of long-term futures, I honestly think that Kelleher could be first choice for Liverpool the season after next. That potentially frees up 100m on spending on Liverpools part if Allison were to go Spain-side. That's a gut feeling, and probably has no basis in reality, but there is no doubt that he's making a huge impression on Klopp and Linjders. Two years time he's pushing 24/25, he won't be a kid anymore and would need to have some sort of plan for the future.
You can't have the same sort of discussion about Bazunu yet, he's two years younger, and it's a totally different operating model at City. and frankly, he doesn't need to have that kind of conversation yet, as long as he's getting good, quality loans that are appropriate for his development, and keep him in the discussion for the Ireland squad, as long as it's deserved.
Out of curiosity - who is the 4th quality keeper?
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A swerve or deflection would explain it, but I don't think either happened.
I think taking his eye off the ball is more likely, and we've seen it before with that corner against Azerbaijan at home, and indeed the second goal in these highlights.
He kept it out, sure, but that doesn't mean it wasn't an error. I think he's due to cost us a goal (if indeed he didn't already in Andorra)
Unfortunately keepers more than any other position get judged by their errors, so he needs to cut those out. And he's 19, so he has loads of time to do it. But I still think people get carried away with where he's at right now
Probably Randolph?
Maybe Sean McDermott?
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One thing we will ok agree on, is we are lucky to have these 2 young fellas.
Feel sorry for Travers. He's playing week in week out for probably the best team in the championship but is seen as third choice among the young keepers. Think he's showed more than enough so far this season to get a second chance in the senior team. Fair enough he was warming the bench himself when he last played for the seniors but he's established himself as first choice for probably the best team in the championship.
The clip is below at 7:00. The second replay from behind the shot is best. The ball swerves, but not massively. I don't think Duffy is a factor. He's tried to swat it away and is very lucky it came off the bar instead of going into the net
https://youtu.be/28gtpb0opCY
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I think it is a little easier to answer. The shirt is Gavin's. Kelleher getting regular football would have to coincide with Bazunu having a couple of dodgy/costly games for us (or his club form going completely down the drain i suppose). As an aside, neither of those look likely to happen in the short term.
Yes the video shows a fast moving shot that swerves mid-air. It's not conclusive that Duffy blocks his vision but the video does show Duffy moving across the ball before Bazunu makes the save. We need to see it from Bazunu's positioning to be sure. But previously you have said
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The video also shows Bazunu eyes fixed on the ball throughout the build-up play. Certainly from the sideline video angle he appears very focused, positioning is fine, and he does take a stance anticipating the shot. I agree there is awkwardness/ clumsiness to the save but is it unnecessarily clumsy for a reason - line of vision momentarily blocked for example?
Well what happens in the build-up play is irrelevant; I'm suggesting he might have momentarily taken his eye off the ball during its flight. I think the way he goes at the ball, trying to swat it away, is very awkward and gives him little control over where the ball is going to end up, which is particularly why I think he got luck with it.
whether his line of sight was blocked or he momentarily took his eye off the ball during its flight (though I am not sure that is actually physically possible given how quickly it all happened), he did what was needed to keep the ball out of the net. Which is what it is about for a keeper.
I thought at the time it was a good save and i still think it was.
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