Thanks Tets. I did wonder, and it's an interesting point to considerOriginally Posted by tetsujin1979
Marc Vale scored first for Andorra when they took a shock league against in that match, of course.
I do think it’s important that we get our noses in front in the next games against Luxembourg and Azerbaijan. I can’t help feeling that an element of panic and “oh no, not again” set in. When we lost the goal to Azerbaijan in particular. We need to take the lead in one of those games and kick on from there.
Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.
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Didn't cover himself in glory at all yesterday for the first and second goals. The second is a rare error as he's an excellent shot-stopper, but the first is a symptom of his tendency to misjudge what he should come for or not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8ej-viW1L0
Harsh on the first one. The cross was excellent
2nd one was a disaster
Don't think a cross can hang in the six-yard-box that long without it being keeper's ball tbh. No-one challenging either. It looks like he misjudged the flight of it
Oh Dear; On the second one.
First goal, I think a more experienced keeper, say a premier league starter, is normally tracking that ball and at the very least getting a finger tip to it to push it out to the sideline, probably for a throw. I wouldn’t go so far to say it’s his fault but if he progresses, 3 years from now, it wouldn’t be a goal.
Second goal, similarly, inexperience. In fairness to him, I think it deflects off the defenders shoulder. Hard to see with that angle but that makes the ball move and perhaps wrong foots him a little and puts a load of spin on the ball. A more experienced might handle the shot differently. Not sure it was really travelling quick enough to punch. He kinda drops it onto his foot. I’ve noticed he regularly does things like a little spill here and there or a little misjudgement but he’s got such incredible reactions and speed of movement that he can recover quicker than any keeper I’ve seen. They’ll probably fade a little as he ages and fills out.
Third goal wasn’t his fault, and it’s difficult to judge but if he came he would have beaten the attacker to the ball. The attacker heads it at the six yard box. He probably only has 2 yards to move from where he starts out.
There was talk on the kelleher thread of him one day replacing Ederson, I do feel that Ederson would have handled all three goals. It’s a really high bar and he’s still a teenager but it’s days like that that show you how far he has to go - and also illustrate that Kelleher, Travers and Randolph all have a shout to be our best keeper right now.
Hard to drop him when he’s been faultless for ireland but he’s just one of four talented keepers
He is 19. Of course he has a long way to go. Whatever about Ederson handling all three goals- that is irrelevant. The question is whether 19 year old Ederson that was a sub at Rio Ave would have handled all three. I'm sure that Ederson had bad days too.
And I agree that the other lads have a shout to be our first choice. But he is in possession of the Irish jersey and hasn't given Kenny any reason to deprive him of it for Ireland.
He's still learning and aspects of his game need ironing out. Probably should be getting a tip on the ball for the first goal. And bad mistake for the second goal but quick reaction to pounce from which two defenders have a chance to clear.
He's been far from faultless for Ireland in fairness. I'm every game bar Serbia at home and the 45 against Hungary, he's had a blunder of that calibre. He's just been lucky enough that it's never cost a goal.
Obviously he's only 19 and learning fast, but may as well call out the errors when they happen
against Serbia at home, he needed a dig out from McClean after he came way out of his area to claim the ball
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He's made a handling mistake or error of judgment in every game except the Azerbaijan away game and got away with them all. I'm fine with that. The lad clearly has bundles of talent and has a great habit of making big saves at big moments. Travers made one error and got punished, that's football. I think he was all at sea in the first half in Belgrade though when Tadic's corners caused real trouble. Bazunu has the jersey and until he costs us a game or two I'm fine with that. There's never any counter-factual argument that Kelleher or Travers will be better. Bazunu has been tested a few times at this level now and passed with distinction.
Here is a question
if Allison gets seriously injured and kelleher does a v good job for Liverpool for a couple of months. do we stick with Gavin?
So far he has been a lucky Goal Keeper for us. He has got away with mistakes an unlucky Goal Keeper would not have got away with. He had better keep being lucky for us or get better. There is some promising competition out there.
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I thought he was all over the place for that shot he tipped onto the bar in the second half. Should have been a straightforward tip over the bar but he flapped at it and was very lucky.
Agree with the rest of your analysis alright, but don't see the harm in calling the errors out though.
It depends on how well Gavin keeps doing!
In reality we don't have much to compare each other on. Kelleher impressed me in Budapest, arguably the better of two good performances. Saved a pen at Norwich but arguably flapped at the first shot. Swept very well.
My own view is that if Kelleher was given a run in the side from now on in we'd also see some mistakes. Can he take or read high balls for example?
I've a feeling Kelleher will soon get a chance to keep the shirt though.
I think you've got to judge these saves in real time. Looked a bit clumsy in slow mo but in real time he did what was needed.
I think the save from Mitrovic with his foot was simply brilliant btw.
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