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    Quote Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop View Post
    "if it's true that only one person has put their name forward for the LOI Director's position"


    I'll translate for you and I'll keep it nice and simple for you.
    He doesn't know how many people applied. He's basing it off a rumour that there was only one applicant.

    Those tweets were also sent before anything was announced so was all based off rumours and Dan McDonnells article came after and set out the facts

    https://twitter.com/McDonnellDan/sta...458137600?s=20
    Yeah..

    I gather there was more than one for what itís worth ...
    That's clearly "setting out the facts" alright!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lilywhites View Post
    You're clearly too thick to realise how these things work.
    Have you actually anything to add to your case other than personal attacks, TL?

    How do they work? Do you want to tell us?

    Because everything you've said so far is misguided -

    Saying he was the only applicant for the job, based on one rumour on twitter. Then suggesting a leading national sports journalist is being fed wrong information when he says something different - but no reason given on your part to disagree. As RH notes, that tweet clearly starts "If it's true..." - which means JamesDundalk (who could be you, for all we know) doesn't know either
    Saying you can't compare his existing role with the new one, and then asking what his existing role is anyway
    Saying a Master's in Sports Management doesn't qualify him for the role, but not saying why, and then ignoring EG's post of course description, which suggests it is a good fit
    Saying you never mentioned Rovers bias, when in fact you did so here.
    Saying he doesn't have the requisite business contacts (but you've given no evidence of that one way or the other)
    Saying he's not up to the job because of what other people did in other roles (probably your most bizarre argument of the lot)
    Saying external candidates should have been sought (but ignoring the very possible reality that the FAI could have a hiring freeze on, or indeed the fact that there were no qualified external applicants. Because who would give up a job to go work with the FAI around about now?)


    Then when you can't argue that way, you turn to ad hominem arguments -
    Saying I'm thick when I don't agree with you (hardly a relevant argument, I'm sure you'll agree)
    Saying I'm happy with the appointment (when I never said I was)
    Saying I'm throwing around insults (when I haven't been, but you have been)
    Saying I don't read anything (but then you ask why I'm happy with the appointment, when I never said I was)

    So you haven't brought a single logical argument to the debate - but I'm the thick one?

    You haven't a ****ing clue what you're talking about, but you're still mickey swinging away in the belief that your ill-informed views are the absolute truth and everyone else must somehow be wrong.

    I don't know the ins and outs of the appointment either - but then I'm not acting like I know it all.
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    I don't know the ins and outs of the appointment either - but then I'm not acting like I know it all.
    You are though.

    Got bored after two lines of your post so skipped to the end.

    I'll leave you and RH to entertain yourselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lilywhites View Post
    Got bored after two lines of your post so skipped to the end.
    Yeah, that pretty much sums up your approach on all this.

    Ignore when people (ie pretty much everyone on here) challenge you and try engage you in a debate about your points, and instead waddle off with your own bizarre viewpoint still to hand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Yeah, that pretty much sums up your approach on all this.

    Ignore when people (ie pretty much everyone on here) challenge you and try engage you in a debate about your points, and instead waddle off with your own bizarre viewpoint still to hand.
    You and RH are "everyone" now, yeah. Ok.

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    Everyone on the thread - including WeAreRovers, Lim till i die, Eminence Grise, nigel-harps1954 and Charlie Darwin.

    All arguing against you.

    Nobody's on your side here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Everyone on the thread - including WeAreRovers, Lim till i die, Eminence Grise, nigel-harps1954 and Charlie Darwin.

    All arguing against you.

    Nobody's on your side here.
    Of course that would be your interpretation of it. Lol.

    For a start, Lim til I Die called you a driveller, ffs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lilywhites View Post
    For a start, Lim til I Die called you a driveller, ffs.
    Did he?

    Where do you see that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Did he?

    Where do you see that?
    2 posts under your drivel on page 3.

    He hasn't even mentioned Scanlon on this thread.

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    Or is it 3 posts under your drivel?

    Again, hard evidence not your strong suit, TL.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Or is it 3 posts under your drivel?

    Again, hard evidence not your strong suit, TL.
    You're the one who mentioned LTID as pro Scanlon when he hasn't even mentioned him. Making up stuff, as usual.

    You decided to list nearly everyone who's posted on the thread so far but you basically have RH on your side. That says it all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lilywhites View Post
    You decided to list nearly everyone who's posted on the thread so far but you basically have RH on your side. That says it all.
    What about WAR, who provides a reputable source contradicting your claim that only one person applied for the role?

    What about Eminence Grise, who outlines the contents of a course in Sports Management to show how it might be relevant to the job at hand, and who highlights your acute unreasonableness in this discussion?

    What about nigel and Charlie, who've indirectly and directly queried your view of the role?

    But you've ignored all those to flag one poster who doesn't even mention me!

    That says it all...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lilywhites View Post
    Of course that would be your interpretation of it. Lol.

    For a start, Lim til I Die called you a driveller, ffs.
    For what it's worth, you're chatting out of your hole.

    Refusing to engage in a rational debate, admitting to not reading a response and continuing to tell someone they're wrong, despite not reading their response, is the absolute height of ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    What about WAR, who provides a reputable source contradicting your claim that only one person applied for the role?
    He provided a link to an article that is behind a paywall. I don't subscribe to the Indo. I asked for the relevant bit to be posted here to see what it says...

    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    What about Eminence Grise, who outlines the contents of a course in Sports Management to show how it might be relevant to the job at hand, and who highlights your acute unreasonableness in this discussion?
    I was aware of what was on the Sports Management course. EG was responding directly to Nigel Harps on that, not me.

    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    What about nigel and Charlie, who've indirectly and directly queried your view of the role?
    Nigel only asked about qualifications.

    Charlie was very reasonable in his posts, unlike yourself and RH who continue to just ramble on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    For what it's worth, you're chatting out of your hole.

    Refusing to engage in a rational debate, admitting to not reading a response and continuing to tell someone they're wrong, despite not reading their response, is the absolute height of ignorance.
    I didn't read that reply because it was a book and he's going round in rings with his argument. Couldn't be bothered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    For what it's worth, you're chatting out of your hole.

    Refusing to engage in a rational debate, admitting to not reading a response and continuing to tell someone they're wrong, despite not reading their response, is the absolute height of ignorance.
    Cheers Nigel.

    I'll leave it at that so. If that doesn't get through, nothing will. (And I think "nothing will" is the actual answer)

    Best of luck to Scanlon in his new role. I've no idea who he is or how he'll do. Maybe he'll be rubbish. But it won't be because of how John McGuinness did anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I've no idea who he is or how he'll do.
    Exactly. You haven't a clue.

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    I've never said otherwise.

    But I do have a clue when it comes to arguing against your logic.

    You haven't a clue about Scanlon either. But you're the one actively arguing against his appointment. Despite not having a clue about his job, experience, how many people applied, etc.

    That's the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin View Post
    I don't know what we want, somebody who cares about the league, which pretty much means they're guaranteed to support a team, or someone from outside who doesn't care. All the refs in the league support a LOI team and we don't (usually) question their impartiality. There are players who support one team and play for their bitterest rivals but they still do their job. Just accept that guys will support teams and hope they've been appointed based on their competence. JD supported Waterford ffs, fat lot of good it did them.
    I would agree, and have said as much albeit in longwinded or clumsey manner. Anticipating potential tunnel vision reaction, as has been born out subsequently in this thread, wasnt anti-SRFC or a 'manipulation of posters'. It was simply expecting some people to baulk at the appointment. Which was more a recognition of how some could react against a SRFC connection. I wasnt sure from whom, especially with marionbohs absence these days. I was less surprised by RH stamping his feet at the very suggestion that it was possible!

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    For the record I just want to state that I consider all arguments between Rathfarnham Hoop and Dundalk fans (and let's face it is their any other content on foot these days) to be painful, worst kind of internet argument, pointless, drivel.

    Carry on everyone!

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