QuoteOriginally Posted by mypost
it's no wonder that the UK music industry is in serious decline.
ahh but we are ok it only got to number 2 here
The British music industry reached a new low this week, when a mobile phone ringtone, masquerading as a "song", went to the top of the UK singles charts. This has to be an all-time low. Where are the classic songs sung by professional music artists, in the UK? I know that sales of singles there have collapsed in the last 10-15 years, and not many songs last longer than a week at No. 1 these days, but I just can't understand how a respected UK music group, namely Oasis, could have a song that is outsold by a mobile ringtone.
The quality of music in the UK seems to have gone down the plughole, in the last 2/3 years. There appears to be no variety in the charts at all these days. Where is Britpop? Where are the club songs? Where are the rock songs? Where are their famous, talented, respected, artists/groups? Where are their professional songwriters??
These days, American male/female R'n'B artists, and manufactured groups created from talent shows singing covers, dominate the charts there. I have bought about 5 singles in the past 18 months or so, because the quality of music available at the moment being released is so bad, that you couldn't possibly buy anymore.
No wonder the UK fails so disasterously at Eurovision. They send the same crap there every year, and nobody likes it. Now, a ringtone gets to No. 1. If that's the best they can come up with, it's no wonder that the UK music industry is in serious decline.
it's no wonder that the UK music industry is in serious decline.
ahh but we are ok it only got to number 2 here
Who cares if the charts are sh!t? I don't think i've ever seen them as in any way influencing my choice of music. OK you don't like the music in the charts but they represent what 'the kids' are listening to at the moment. Just do what everyone else does and listen to your own stuff, ignoring the tat on TOTP.
"I don’t want to tempt fate, but Thierry Henry is not having one of his best nights." - RTE co-commentator Jim Beglin, minutes before TH struck the stunning winner.
I think the last time I bought a single was about 10 years ago. Probably more to be honest.
Not a suprise really and its more of a brand or an idea than a tune....Really hate the ****er...
There should be a chart for under 16's and another for over.. Same as radio stations.. theres nothing worse than listening to a good song fade out into a westlife or in this case a frog bleedin singing!!
My Post, couldn't agree with you more.The British music industry reached a new low this week, when a mobile phone ringtone, masquerading as a "song", went to the top of the UK singles charts. This has to be an all-time low. Where are the classic songs sung by professional music artists, in the UK? I know that sales of singles there have collapsed in the last 10-15 years, and not many songs last longer than a week at No. 1 these days, but I just can't understand how a respected UK music group, namely Oasis, could have a song that is outsold by a mobile ringtone.
The quality of music in the UK seems to have gone down the plughole, in the last 2/3 years. There appears to be no variety in the charts at all these days. Where is Britpop? Where are the club songs? Where are the rock songs? Where are their famous, talented, respected, artists/groups? Where are their professional songwriters??
These days, American male/female R'n'B artists, and manufactured groups created from talent shows singing covers, dominate the charts there. I have bought about 5 singles in the past 18 months or so, because the quality of music available at the moment being released is so bad, that you couldn't possibly buy anymore.
No wonder the UK fails so disasterously at Eurovision. They send the same crap there every year, and nobody likes it. Now, a ringtone gets to No. 1. If that's the best they can come up with, it's no wonder that the UK music industry is in serious decline.
I remember, in the late 70s and early 80s there was a pile of hits caled Stars on 45 which was basically a karoke type thingy set to a backing beat. I remember thinking this was the pits at the time. Then there was Jive Bunny.
It's keeps getting worse though - is there any hope when the charts are more fully based on downloads we might get a more representative top 40?? Doubt it but maybe more rock/quality pop songs will be represented. Here's hoping.
Another thing that annoys me is the way the big stores like Tesco are influencing the charts - album and singles. Someone like Celine Dion breaks through and the record companies go crazy getting soundalikes - eg Delta Goodrem etc. The circle goes on and on. Record companies don't seem to give up and coming artists time to develop either - if the first record doesn't break, then they're dumped.
Choice and veriety go out the window as the smaller stores, who can't compete with the Tescos etc pricewise and who are more likely to have a more eclectic mix for sale are squeezed out of business. Downloading, of course, doesn't help them either. Then you know all this anyway.
To contradict myself a little, there is some light at the end of the tunnel. I spoke to a number of folk artists at the Cambridge Folk Festival and they told me they make a good living gigging and selling albums at gigs and via the net etc so there's kind of an underground of music in all genres going on - not huge sellers but relatively healthy. The folk scene has a huge number of clubs and smaller concert halls in the UK where a massive number of artists perform. I get magazines called Froots (originally Folk Roots) and the Living Tradition who have lists of where the artists are playing etc. These mags also cover Robert Plant, Steve Earl and many artitst one wouldn't think come under the folk label so it's not all diddley eye stuff. There's a lot of World Music - from literally everywhere and Froots often has great free CDS attached with stuff from Algeria to Taipei.
Maybe that's the way things are going???? Maybe the charts are becoming irrelevant???
What do you think??
Last edited by hamish; 07/06/2005 at 4:40 AM.
Wow! Someone else goes to the Cambridge Folk Festival. I have a friend into folk, and it's such an obscure genre-fair play! I'd agree with the above. Even the more mainstream of my bands, eg/Bloc Party or Kaiser Chiefs, have very little singles chart success. I base my selections on reccomendations, be it from here, Q magazine, amazon,etc.
Certainly. I bought yesterday one of the best albums I've heard in ages, yet i doubt it would get near a chart (Rufus Wainwright-Want Two) as it does not fit into any single bracket of music. AFAIK, the only people who buy singles are "little girls"-you know what i mean. I haven't bought a single for 3 years, aside from the DVD Version of The Thrills last song. As I've got older, I've bought many more albums, as i am now uch more receptive to other kinds of music.
To be quite honest, I think the charts influence very few people. The only time I read about the charts is when I am on boards like this or I read a Quirky news story, akin to the Ring tone Number 1.
Most of the albums I think have been brilliant over the last few years never made it into any chart places and the singles failed to have commercial radio success. I wouldn't get too upset about the ringtone. The music is still being produced, its just not a singles market any more for quality bands.
It's long been the case that the charts have been rigged to a certain degree, tracks delayed, massive airplay, some bookies won't take bets on who's going to be number 1 because of this.
ahh but we are ok it only got to number 2 here
not any more.................
Don't remind me anout that Joe Dolce drivel
Yeah, Jofyisgod, went every year from 96 to 99 and the range of music was amazing - from Strummer, Chumbawumba to every type of music you can imagine and people, as they say, from 9 to 90 there. And much more comfortable for auld gits like me than Glastonbury. Hate it when late July and early August comes round. Maybe next year DV.
Will you stop going on about Joe Dolce - It means nothing to me....
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Just googled it.
http://www.viewlondon.co.uk/dance_feat_stevestrange.asp
How low can it go?? We're trying our best to find out
If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.
Did anyone notice how Kelly Osbourne's latest is a direct rip-off of Visage's hit?? Even the video is very simlar, y'know moody black and white and French spoken in the background.
My favourite Ultravox song is "The Voice" from Rage in Eden album- thumping bass and kinda creepy chorus - like something you'd hear in a monastery.
Love Talk Talk's "In my life" - used to play it in Mel's - used to echo right round the ground but a few didn't like it - "stop playing that heavy stuff" - can't win sometimes!!!
Last edited by hamish; 12/06/2005 at 5:05 PM.
I don't believe it!!!
This amuses me with the Osbornes. Thanks to MTV's exposure and the pushy mother, they think they can crack the charts by being formulaic and following the latest fashion trend in music. Kelly Osborne the rock chick is now doing synth music
Other guilty persons of following trends: Gwen Sefani, Madonna........
The only band to have sucessfully pulled off the synth/80s style so far are the Killers. The Bravery are awful - just 1 decent track on that album.
They are off the top spot after 4 weeks.I don't believe it!!!Who replaced it? Elton John!!!
It's gone lower!!
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