Do you honestly believe the legacy of English rule has nothing to do with the support for the Premiership and other forms of obliteration of Irish culture? Get real palOriginally Posted by Donal81
dumbest thing ive ever seen
it absolutly nothing got to do with it , people like footy they like to watch footy from all around the globe not just england ,if your so worried get off this site for an english game and go to a gaa site or one about irish culture and you can talk about the culture of Kiddnapping , rape, torture , slavery ,incest ,peadophilia and desease that used to exsist in ireland .
You've just compounded the ridiculousness of your last post. This is actually one of the worst attempts at anthropology I've ever seen in my life.
We secretly want to be British, that's right, you've cracked it. You really should take your theories on the road, lofty ideas like that deserve recognition.
The reason is simple - TV.
Crowds in Ireland were 30000-40000 before the World Cup in 66 and the European Cup of 68. Both televised live on TV and thats where the decline started.
It did not help with the mis-management of LOI clubs through the 70s and 80s and the incompetence of endless FAI officials.
The situation got worse of course for a new generation when Rupert Murdoch invented football in 1992 with the launch of Sky at the same time as the Premier League was founded.
Remember football was dead in the eighties and when re-born in England in 1992 they had the Irish Italia 90 ole olers as a ready made market.
I remember Rico saying that the LOPI teams never reacted to live UK football. When the Big Match started in the UK LOI clubs did not move the time of their kick offs & apparently crowds plummeted in early 70's.
Though why should we even have had to react?
do you mean irish football was dead , coz i was living in england in the 80's and it was very much alive .
to say sky or even tv ruined soccer in ireland is right , but its hardly a bad thing why should people go to watch a rubbish team play badly in a rubbish league , when there is a good match on tv
Quality is all relative. Scottish football is rubbish relative to Spanish football but is probably quality compared to say Malta.
I used to go to the EL in the 70's early 80's,stopped cos I went away,anyway was at a game recently and the facilities were still the same,you'd need to bring a pair of overalls to protect your clothes,although the standard of play has improved slightly,I would rather travel to Leeds to support my team.
MOT
yea so when you have a choice of two the better one will allways win out the the prem league is miles and miles ahead of the el
A fella in work says the same; he used to get a season ticket to guarantee getting into Milltown, as you couldn't be sure as pay at the gate. He says it all changed with Match of the Day and ready access to seeing English football.
Fair comment about English football and the premiership, and the Italia 90 supporters. Friendlies used to be pretty common over here in the early 90's, then they moved to Scandinavia and now it's the Far East. It's all about get the market hooked and move on. The Irish were the first to fall for it....
Anto, English football was on it's knee's in the 80's - shít grounds, hooliganism, shít crowds, social outcasts. Took Italia 90 to make it cool again.
Dublin 12 - what ground were you in, as it's a long time since that's been a problem, unless it was the Connaught Street side of Dayler? And besides, obviously never bothered you in the rubbish grounds pre Taylor report in England...
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In England. Crowds were down, clubs going bankrupt, stadiums in bits, little tv or sponsor money. Economy is sh1te, inner city riots.
I worked in England too. For a company who supplied the FA. I had inside knowledge about the state of the game and visited Lancaster Gate a number of times.
I had a copy of 'Blueprint for Football' before most people. That document contained the formation of the Premier League and everything that followed.
Regarding changing kick off times and why should we.
We did change kick off times. The FAI wanted the govt to block Sky's signal. Sky paid alot of money to the FAI to allow clubs install floodlights so they could switch to Friday nights.
english teams were the best in europe in the early 80's untill liverpool got everyone banned . the economy in england may have been sh1t which is going to have a bad affect on every thing that has to be paid for i n the country , but to say it was on its knees is a bit much , i travelled all around england watching games and very rarely was there any even half empty stadium . attendences dropping from 40 k to 30 k is bad but the game was nt on its knees .
the stadiums them selves may have been in a poor state but everything in the 80's was rubbish ,
itailia 90 made it cool again do ye not remember mexico 86 !!! or all the europeen cup finals with english clubs in the 80's
I don't know what ground you been to recently but facilities for the top clubs have changed a lot.I used to go to the EL in the 70's early 80's,stopped cos I went away,anyway was at a game recently and the facilities were still the same,you'd need to bring a pair of overalls to protect your clothes
In early 90's Cork City had 1 covered terrace behind goal & 3 mudbanks.
Today fully surfaced ground, covered seating on 2 grounds, uncovered on 1 side & old covered terrace still remains for now.
I get comments from family members thinking i need to bring boots for the mud still but its a misguided view.
irish stadiums in all sports are sh!te. Best eL grounds are no worse than similar size rugby or GAA grounds.
Ok I will be specific - 1985 to 1992.
Yes I remember mexico 86 when England lost to Portugal and drew with Morocco - whats your point ?
Italia 90 has gone down in history as the WORST World Cup EVER and initiated alot of rule changes - back pass, offiside etc.
If the game was not on its kness then WHY oh WHY did the FA step in and re-structure the game ?
Thatcher wanted England to pull out of Euro88 and Italia90
I was at UCD,Tolka and Dayler,in fairness though they have improved slightly but not an awful lot,Cork looks a tidy little ground from what I've seen on the TV.I am trying my best to go back and following the league,it's hard though when some of the quality of football is on a par with some good Sunday league clubs.I might pop along to Bohs/Rovers this friday though,always a bit lively at that one
MOT
and you needed "a pair of overalls to protect your clothes"?
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
some one said it took italia 90 to make soccer cool again , i was pointing out 86 was a class comp ( not specific to england )
they stepped in because it was on a decline but i was in england in 89 and every week the ground was full so to say it was on its knees is an bit much .
Schumi..yeah correct and a pair of ear plugs as the singing was deafening
MOT
At Everton? One of the top teams - not really a true bench mark on the whole league.
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