Whats the story with Stephen kelly?

**NeilMcD** · 27/05/2005, 2:44 PM

Does anybody know what is going on with Stephen Kelly in relatino to the U21s. Someone mentioned here that he is not going to play for them again. Is this true, where is this information coming from. Has there been a falling out with Don Givens. Is he injured. Or is he going to be called up to the Senior Squad.

**zinedineontour** · 27/05/2005, 3:35 PM

should be in the senior squad imo .. don givens seems to get up a lot of peoples backs ...

**Kingdom** · 27/05/2005, 4:40 PM

Don Givens is a waster. many great ex pro's can't cut it as manager and Givens is one oif them.

Many people on this board have stated how good a crop of players he has had at his disposal over the last two to three years and he has done nothing.

Why not promote someone like Vinny Butler? Knows youth football on these shores inside out. Or one of the eL managers on a part time basis. What about Fenlon?

**zinedineontour** · 27/05/2005, 5:25 PM

Originally Posted by Kingdom

Don Givens is a waster. many great ex pro's can't cut it as manager and Givens is one oif them.

Many people on this board have stated how good a crop of players he has had at his disposal over the last two to three years and he has done nothing.

Why not promote someone like Vinny Butler? Knows youth football on these shores inside out. Or one of the eL managers on a part time basis. What about Fenlon?

i think fenlon would be a great appointment along the lines of what peter taylor is doing with the england u21s while managing hull .. with the squad we have had at our disposal at under 21 level givens should really have been producing better results