Paul Butler
Liam Daish
Dominic Foley
Jon Goodman
Jim Goodwin
Jonathan Macken
Alan Mahon
Terry Mancini
Eddie McGoldrick
Pierce O'Leary
Sorry to remind you Tezza but it was Bergkamp who scored it after you headed it on for Overmars.Originally Posted by TerryPhelan
T-shirt at the time ;
Sack Jackie
Drop Packie
Shoot the Blackie
Seriously.
Worst player - Jeff Chandler, played for Leeds.
Funny story Liam Touhy told Dunphy once.
When Touhy took the Youth team to the World Cup in Russia in 1985 (i think) he played games with the players to stop them getting bored. The favourite game was to name the Worst Ever Ireland XI.
Dunphy said "I hope I was in it, Liam"
Touhy replied "In it Eamon, you were the fcuking captain".
Alan Kelly always struck me as a very limited player (bit of a cruel thread this ha?)
I'm sure he always did his best and I've heard it said he was a great talker and organiser on the pitch but he always seemed just a bit overweight and sluggish.
I'll never forget a goal he conceded against the North at lansdowne in spring 95. In fairness gillespie should never have been allowed put the cross in but up popped Iain 'the blonde adonis' Dowie with a decent header -not agreat header but on target -and our Alan looked like a hippo trying to fly going for it.
...oh and I suspect the only thing that's keeping Mark Kennedy so far down the pecking order was the wonder goal against Yugoslavia.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
F*cking hell! Awful stuff. Never heard of Jeff Chandler,long before my time. In my experience, the worst would have to be Jon Macken. Comes on, does nothing, fades away. Maybe he really wants to play for us, who knows.
I remember O'Herlihy and the lads tearing into Kernaghan at half-time in the Spain match in 1993. I always thought the guy was grand, he wasn't Paul McGrath but he wasn't Paul Butler either. He got stung with a load of criticism.
It's my list on the poll Colin, and like I said, it's entirely arbitrary. Dontcha just love football?
I couldn't agree more, thecorner. He hasn't quite concluded his stunning career as yet, and so stands chance of redeeming himself (which is why he doesn't yet feature on the list). He'll need at least a few MOMs to do so, of course...
PP
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Alan Kelly?!Quality keeper! Took about six or seven games before he conceded a goal, was an unbelievable shot-stopper (the home win against Yugoslavia springs to mind)...One of my favourite players! Very similar career to Graham Kavanagh in a way - never reached the heights he should have...
I think Kernaghan received the man of the match award against Denmark 1-1 at home ´93.
It was Walsall he played for as far as I remember.Mick Kearns. Goalkeeper for Oxford United in the old 3rd division or something.
Worst single performance by an Irish player was Alan Mahon in his one and only cap. It was unbelievable - literally every ball he passed went to the opposition. I still wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it with my own eyes. However, I think you have to judge someone who played a lot of games for Ireland and to me Chris Morris (he played for the Owls as well) was one of the worst players I've seen. He had a bit of pace but couldn't pass to a team mate no matter how hard he tried.
...and scored the goal that killed off Lithuania the following september.
He had a bad game against Spain (but so did everyone else except John Sheridan) on "black Wednesday" (13.10.93) -a day we could've waltzed into the world cup if we'd just stayed upright.
Kernaghan was made take a disproportionate amount of blame for that defeat which was then compounded by another poor performance 5 weeks later in Belfast. At least he had the excuse that, at a time when the troubles were at their worst and life up there was extremely cheap to take, he had gob****es shouting his parents address at him. (I believe they live in Ballymena).
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
I agree.
The criteria for this discussion should be for someone who has approx 20 caps.
Fellas like ;
Chris Morris
Mick McCarthy
Mark Kennedy
Mick Martin
Paddy Mulligan
Eddie McGoldrick
Tommy Coyne
Alan Kernaghan
Gary Kelly (jimmy doyle)
Well, at least where the poll is concerned, I refer you to my answer in post 45 above.
PP
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What the hell was wrong with Tommy Coyne? Surely a legend of a man?
had a look at the fai site, and of players who have 20 caps or over, the following would make it onto my list:
Lee Carsley
David Connolly
Jeff Kenna
Eamon Dunphy
Gary Doherty
(in fairness to the bottom 3, at least you were always sure they gave their all when the played for ireland- not sure about the first two - so between them, i would choose lee carsley as my worst player of all time (who has 20 caps or more!)
What the hell was right about him ?
How many goals did he score ?
Dont get me wrong, he worked his ****** off the USA94 but what else ?
David Connolly
Lee Carsley
How could I forget those two imposters.
Will you ever put down the gluebag!Originally Posted by stojkovic
I agree.
The criteria for this discussion should be for someone who has approx 20 caps.
Fellas like ;
Chris Morris
Mick McCarthy
Mark Kennedy
Mick Martin
Paddy Mulligan
Eddie McGoldrick
Tommy Coyne
Alan Kernaghan
Gary Kelly (jimmy doyle)
He'd one bad game for us. The guys been a near ever present in a Leeds team that qualified for Europe three times out of four since he broke into the team in 93.
Morris, McCarthy and Martin are better than given credit for too.
" I wish to God that someone would be able to block out the voices in my head for five minutes, the voices that scream, over and over again: "Why do they come to me to die?"
Agreed. History has been unkind to Kernaghan mainly because Dunphy slated him after the Spanish game - in my humble opinion it was the then past it Kevin Moran who was more at fault for that disasterous first half but Eamo would never slag off one of his pals.
Together with all our hearts.
Do you think that Gary Kelly fulfilled his potential for Ireland ?
I probably am being abit harsh though.
How many games did he play? He played great against the Italians, scored against the Dutch in Tilburg, scored in a few other games, didn't he?
22 games, I think 9 goals? Scored on his debut v. Switzerland, I think.
[QUOTE=stojkovic]What the hell was right about him ?
How many goals did he score ?
Dont get me wrong, he worked his ****** off the USA94 but what else ?
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According to the FAI, he scored 6 goals in 22 caps. That's not the worst record for a striker, surely? Sorry but I have fond memories of the chap scoring against the Dutch and holding things up against the Italians. He's one that really faded out of popular memory, when you think about it.
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