Some guy:I don't like Eircom League football, it's too partisan![]()
Coming up on Moncrieff's show on NewsTalk 106. Should make for interesting listening. Lots of barstoolers will be texting in I'd say running down the el.
Some guy:I don't like Eircom League football, it's too partisan![]()
We're not arrogant, we're just better.
Originally Posted by Schumi
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Oh Jebus, I don't know whether to laugh or to cry.....Originally Posted by Schumi
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After listening to that piece I give up on Irish people. They are just ignorant. In England people support their local, less glamourous team in large enough numbers, even though the big temas are right on their doorstep and therefore a lot more accessible and yet in Ireland we can't do the same. Doesn't say much about us as a sporting nation![]()
Do a lot of people in England also just go and support bigger clubs in other parts of England and support near bigger clubs instead of the local small club? Or a combination of small club and local/not so local big club?Originally Posted by ger121
I say it could be a combination of all 3. You just have to look at the attendance figures for games in England to see that clubs even in the conference get better attendance figures than most clubs in the el. I've a mate who works with me from Rochdale, he would support Man U but also goes to Rochdale and he is an average supporter that you would find in England. The main thing is he would never rubbish Rochdale just because they ain't Man U.Originally Posted by Poor Student
Ye, I spend a fair bit of time in Oxford, and many regular Oxford Utd fans would have a preferance for one of the "big" clubs, if the U's aren't playing they would shout for the other team on Sky Sports or whatever...but they rarely if ever belittle their local teams because they are not worldbeaters
It comes down to the fact that Irish people are more interested in success/glamour than supporting teams. The crowds shels got for their big euro games proves that
Is that discussion still on????Originally Posted by Éanna
Yeah loads of glamour following Nottingham Forest![]()
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Why are Irish people who support British teams not thought of as West Brits, in the same way as applies to people who affect other types of Britishness, such as political viewpoints, or accents (with apologies to UCD and all who sail in her).
Eanna, I do go to Galway United matches and enjoy supporting them through thick and thin...Originally Posted by Éanna
But I also enjoy watching the top players in the world playing world class football which you just don't see in the EL...
What is so wrong with that?
Nothing. I never said there was, I'm the same myself. What I meant was that Irish people tend to look for that glamour and success while ignoring our own league- thats what ****es me offOriginally Posted by Eire06
Originally Posted by Éanna
I think that's exactly it - and it's not just football that is true about.
I remember when United got to the cup semi against Shels we were 2-0 down and then with about 25 mins to go people started to leave!
We started chanting "We'll never see you again" at them.
They appeared to have no interest apart from if United actually won the game!
I phoned the speaking clock to hear a voice speak, it said - "At the tone you will be very much alone"
Thats grand took you up wrong!!Originally Posted by Éanna
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I think the clubs and the FAI are to blame for this a lot..
They need to make the public know they are there and do some promotion to attract the fans.. esp young people during the summer ect.. involve them more with the club or something..
That bugs me people leaving any match early esp. if their team is loosing...Originally Posted by JC GUFC
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Same way as people who support soccer i.e 'the foreign game' ahead of GAA aren't either.....Originally Posted by BohDiddley
1 of the main problems here is the way it is marketed here
The FAI make no effort in marketing
Theres no loyalty here, except for the hard core - in the country the local team gets ridiculed cause they have don't have enough locals on the team, yet when a club is forced to play a local team nobody goes to watch them cause there not good enough! Local loyalty here is to the GAA and thats just for the championship which even for the all ireland finalists might only be about 7 games. Not much effort in that. Last night grown Irishmen cried cause Liverpool won, some of them could vote Sinn Fein in an election and not see a contradiction!
I think the clubs and the FAI in particular could do a lot more, but I think its true of all sports, not just the eircom League. Look at the way GAA crowds grow once the Championship starts, look at the way Munster's crowds have rocketed because they've had a few good years- its the fickle nature of the irish sports fan that is ultimately responsible.Originally Posted by Eire06
The best bit of the show was someone saying "Sure I don't support Irish football the standard is awful....blahblahblah....I'm a Celtic fan"
Brilliant.
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