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    Could be a clean sweep for Rovers this year. Surely nobody will catch them in the Covid league table?

    Seriously though, it does raise questions about how Rovers are managing things, got a bit slack since beating Dundalk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcgonigle View Post
    Could be a clean sweep for Rovers this year. Surely nobody will catch them in the Covid league table?

    Seriously though, it does raise questions about how Rovers are managing things, got a bit slack since beating Dundalk?
    They know they are the winners of the mini-league and could well be celebrating and getting complacent. It not like they have major European football to prepare for.

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    We do, next seasons champions path

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    The 2 players are among the 6 who were in close contact with greener, so it seems they finally tested positive after original negative results.
    As for questioning Rovers handling of the issue, perhaps people should open their curtains and notice what's going on in the world around them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by placid casual View Post
    The 2 players are among the 6 who were in close contact with greener, so it seems they finally tested positive after original negative results.
    As for questioning Rovers handling of the issue, perhaps people should open their curtains and notice what's going on in the world around them.
    Absolutely sure just look at all those professional GAA teams having issues.

    I'm sure it's just bad luck. Might be an idea for Rovers to contact some of the amateur teams in the league and get some advice on how they have avoided an outbreak.

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    Just trying to keep the league going for a couple of weeks and enjoy it for a bit longer

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    This belter, from the dalk forum.
    The signature at the bottom is the best bit. 😁


    "As long as the FAI board members and Rovers current Chairman Roche are friends nothing will happen to stop them winning. This has been what the FAI have wanted for long and many a day, they need a club in Dublin to show off at UEFA level. Big silent investor (who is calling the shots at board level in the background), fans owning a big share, academy (which the FAI have pumped at least €500+ into true lobbying at government level and direct grants), ground which JD did his best to get built (Roche and his FF mates in SDCC were trying to get JD to run for election) for the FAI Womens and U21 teams...Rovers as tenants kept his LOI mate happy. Then a Rovers B team.........then the same Mr. Roche went against Premier League clubs and voted with the first division agianst the allience.

    Recently postponements which Shane Long questioned publically.......party rumours being kept very quiet.......and to top it all off now the FAI are thinking of changing the Covid rules after Rovers had a break.......
    https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/60 ... harebarweb

    You couldnt make it up."

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    Quote Originally Posted by placid casual View Post
    This belter, from the dalk forum.
    The signature at the bottom is the best bit. ��


    "As long as the FAI board members and Rovers current Chairman Roche are friends nothing will happen to stop them winning. This has been what the FAI have wanted for long and many a day, they need a club in Dublin to show off at UEFA level. Big silent investor (who is calling the shots at board level in the background), fans owning a big share, academy (which the FAI have pumped at least €500+ into true lobbying at government level and direct grants), ground which JD did his best to get built (Roche and his FF mates in SDCC were trying to get JD to run for election) for the FAI Womens and U21 teams...Rovers as tenants kept his LOI mate happy. Then a Rovers B team.........then the same Mr. Roche went against Premier League clubs and voted with the first division agianst the allience.

    Recently postponements which Shane Long questioned publically.......party rumours being kept very quiet.......and to top it all off now the FAI are thinking of changing the Covid rules after Rovers had a break.......
    https://www.thesun.ie/sport/football/60 ... harebarweb

    You couldnt make it up."
    Good to see your spending last hours before lockdown productively....

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    Jaysus yer man Pepsi needs to get himself a Tinfoil hat thats proper there was a man on the grassy Knoll stuff Whatever abut DFC living rent free in PC;s head that poor lad needs to get a few marbles added to his

    The FAI need to get hard rules in place that no one can argue with rather than the current case by case basis.
    Adopting the UEFA 12 fit players rule with 1 keeper might appear harsh but the league will have to live this way for probably another year so we need to have a rule that keeps the league moving.
    Maybe give teams 1 Timeout per season where 1 match can be postponed to mitigate a bit ........

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    What circumstances have to occur for a game to be forfieted?

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    Good Question.
    I guess if you cant field a team you forfeit but again maybe one time out allowed per team.
    Using 19's should eliminate that option............appreciate its harsh.......ideas welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Good Question.
    I guess if you cant field a team you forfeit but again maybe one time out allowed per team.
    Using 19's should eliminate that option............appreciate its harsh.......ideas welcome
    Disrespectful and would undermine the league....

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    maybe......... but is it better then a forfeit?......we are a long way from ideal territory here

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    I think the only way to get the league going again next year is for the FAI to set out the rules any supports available and say whoever wants to play....play, if not take a year off
    We will be back to listening to Sligo saying they cant afford to play etc etc otherwise for months.
    Player contracts will have to be conditional contracts , Player X gets a contract which is X euro per week if no crowds and x + y if there are crowds
    The players will have to accept that basis the same as people in businesses in the community that are screwed are accepting pay cuts
    I don't say that lightly but what other choice is there? Play an 18 game season off over 12 weeks to keep player costs down?? i believe most players would rather play over a longer season for the same money as when part time most have jobs and again most would want to stay fit and play anyway...very few of them are playing football only for money

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    Well if we get Mr Lucid on board to come up with a format clubs wont need to have finances in advance of any decision!

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    I'd completely forgotten about him, he is the real life equivalent of the 3d stadium plans
    Long on designs low on finance

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    https://www.rte.ie/sport/other-sport...ing-this-year/

    €31 million for GAA, €18 for rugby and €13 for the FAI. Will hopefully help clubs going into next season. Hard to understand the additional amount for the GAA to run the championships, especially as I'd have thought the GAA had probably the deepest cash reserves.

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    The only way that makes any sense to me is that the GAA has successfully argued that the headcount at its inter-county level is ~3x that of the LoI. There's what, 20 league clubs, with squads of ~20 each: 400 players. GAA has ~32 counties in football, maybe half that at hurling. Squads of 30 each would make for ~1500 players. So ~3:1, and that means it's all for elite stuff and not a sausage for grass roots.

    Or maybe I'm over-thinking this, and GAA has political sway, and Delaney's antics have left the FAI politically as well as financially bankrupt.
    Vaccinated.

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    It is probably a difficult one for government to give a handout to the FAI after also giving a bailout recently after the JD messing. There's no political capital left if the FAI ever really did have any. The figures for GAA in terms of running the All Ireland series dont add up though. Maybe I dont know enough about GAA but as an amateur sport the main cost would be the hosting of a large crowd, with no crowds how does it cost €15mil to run a number of 32 team knockout competitions.

    Add to this the recent comments for Louth's captain in voicing concern over no covid testing taking place for squads. A very valid point he makes is zero testing could imply zero cases and that is just not going to happen. Reading between the line he is implying that this is probably the intention. He also observed that GAA players as 'amateurs' cant be in a bubble like pro sports and have to return to work and families after traveling and playing throughout the country.

    "There hasn't been any testing at all, which I can't get my head around.
    Surely before the start of the National League campaign every inter-county squad should have been tested. Simple as.


    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2020/10...on-on-testing/

    It is a couple of weeks old this article so it would be genuinely fascinating to test all players involved to see if there is any trends flagging. That's irrespective of this being an example of a serious player welfare issue, that has been a hot topic for GAA even pre covid risks. They cant call that €15m includes an extensive testing programme of 25-30 player squads, men and women's games for 62 or 63 squads across football and hurling - that would eat up a good chunk of the 15m. It will be interesting to see if there are squad changes, players 'injured' or whether the GAA will front up about cases. It does seem that there are different testing criteria for different sports, maybe it is down to the governing bodies, if so the FAI have shown considerably more professionalism around all this and with less resources!
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