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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    On an all-island basis, Derry/Strabane district has supposedly the worst rate of infection in the country. The close ties on the border is killing Donegal. The lax attitude towards mask wearing in the north is reflected in the case numbers here.

    A disaster from a Harps perspective too. Hoped to have a crowd for Cork on Sunday and now behind closed doors again. Nightmare.
    Nigel heard on news about Lifford/Stranorlar infection rates being high. I am confused with the grouping altogether. I always associate Lifford with Strabane!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    Nigel heard on news about Lifford/Stranorlar infection rates being high. I am confused with the grouping altogether. I always associate Lifford with Strabane!
    It's the Electoral district in Lifford/Stranorlar Marty.

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    Not good!! League could be abandoned yet. Bit earlier this as mid October was going to be high tide so maybe trying to head that off. If govt go with reccomendations to hit L5 again.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/1004/11...virus-ireland/
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    ****ing hell. That's unexpected. What would that mean for Dundalk's Euro games? Neutral venue?

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    Where has that come out of?!

    Seems to say a decision will finalised on Tuesday.

    There were exemptions for elite sport at level 3. I assume that's not the case at level 5.

    So LOI off and our Europa games up in the air. Not good at all this.

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    Level 4 has exemptions for elite sport. Not level 5 though

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    ****ing hell. That's unexpected. What would that mean for Dundalk's Euro games? Neutral venue?
    Neutral venues or forfeit games, but at least the group qualification money is banked. I'm not that surprised that L5 is being considered again. I did think that it would be a Dublin epicentre and cases reaching 500 per day before another regional lockdown. I wouldnt have expected a nationwide lockdown days in to October. There must be serious issues with the modelling going in to winter months that need major work now to not be overwhelmed by November on. I dont know if the cabinet will go for full level 5, but theyd be foolish not to as its would just kick the can down the road and be much harder to contain obviously. Also unusual to see higher levels of infection in NI thant RoI for the last few days considering population differences.

    If the league is halted as it stands, I'll be glad to see the back of the 2020 league campaign but there will be a whole load of issues to sort around European slots. Cork could be saved yet.

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    I imagine league will be decided on av pts per game as in league one and league two last season!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lilywhites View Post
    Where has that come out of?!

    Seems to say a decision will finalised on Tuesday.

    There were exemptions for elite sport at level 3. I assume that's not the case at level 5.


    So LOI off and our Europa games up in the air. Not good at all this.
    Level 5 is back to February like lockdown with schools et al shut. This time if it happens it will be for weeks rather than months though. Dr Holohan is back with a bang - possibly exactly the right time to have him back!!

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    Points per Game league table if stopped now (EFL formula)
    Rovers ................... 2.71
    Bohs .................... 2.14
    Dundalk .................... 1.5
    Waterford ...................1.43
    Pats .................. 1.36
    Sligo ...................1.27
    Derry ................. 1.14
    Shels ....................93
    Harps ................. .79
    Cork ................. .69

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    Interestingly if the Govt go for level 4 now and Pats beat DFC this weekend DFC would drop below them on a points per game basis and miss Europe if the league was abandoned next week if things got worse.
    With the way DFC luck has been running i cant see that happening but if it does it will make the points dropped tonight against Harps expensive
    Cork are doomed

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    What did UEFA decide on European spots for Cup competitions that are abandoned?

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    I think they left it to each of the associations, but league position is the only real solution

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    I’d say if they go to the extreme measure of Level 5 then it’s league over. If the country is lockdown will Dundalk have to host their Europa games in a neutral venue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D24Saint View Post
    If the country is lockdown will Dundalk have to host their Europa games in a neutral venue.
    Iíd imagine so. The same rules apply in the groups as for the qualifiers, if you canít host a game for any reason you have to find a suitable alternative and if you canít you forfeit the game.

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    There were a couple of strange ones around Europe in nominating sides for Europe, where say a 5th placed side got a nod over a higher league ranking side. Dont know what criteria was used but there werent the legal threats that you could have here.

    Seemingly this potential lockdown will be for approximately 4 weeks to include midterm break for schools. There is a slim possibility of changes to the level 5 criteria so like lower leves for elite sport eg. An alternative consideration is to ramp up things at level 4 to avoid a full lockdown. NPHET are sticking to their recommendation so the suggested tweaks are from political circles. Capacity is looking tight in the HSE already so why the earlyish intervention, and we cant book any leave as of tomorrow.

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    What is stopping the league playing the last few games in Nov, Dec, Jan & Feb? Apart from contracts, which would have to be sorted anyway, why not just finish the league no matter if it is delayed or not? The next draw for Europe is yonks away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrufil View Post
    What is stopping the league playing the last few games in Nov, Dec, Jan & Feb? Apart from contracts, which would have to be sorted anyway, why not just finish the league no matter if it is delayed or not? The next draw for Europe is yonks away.
    Itís all down to cash. Itís safe to assume itís not available for another extended period of lockdown.

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    Would the league not be expunged? Only a third of it has been played right now.

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    There's only four games left for most teams. I would presume the league is now agreed as an 18-game season, not a 36-game one.

    Also, I'm not sure if UEFA will allow expunging of a league - how do you decide who qualifies for Europe then?
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