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    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sp...eague-Two.html

    I reckon we are in similar waters if the June deadline is passed, thankfully we are months off that problem and have time to see how things develop.

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    Know its all doom and gloom but this can really be looked at as an opportunity for the league to test things out. Stuff like seeing does playing twice home and away really harm crowds, could a league split work, playoffs for Europe, etc, obviously you can't test them all but the FAI could take a few they'd like to try out and give them a go, seasons ****ed anyway may as well make the best of it and use it to try things.

    Also interesting to note Gibraltar seem to have gotten rid of promotion and relegation, could be something interesting for the FAI to look into, the exact wording of that requirement.

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    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020...windows-moved/
    FIFA offer very little of use. Contracts should be extended: by agreement? So no change there. Or automatically? Not remotely legal.
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    Does a temporary layoff constitute a breach of contract ie a player can jump ship if he wants without transfer fee ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D24Saint View Post
    Does a temporary layoff constitute a breach of contract ie a player can jump ship if he wants without transfer fee ?
    I think if the club fail to pay him for 4 weeks he is a free agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D24Saint View Post
    Does a temporary layoff constitute a breach of contract ie a player can jump ship if he wants without transfer fee ?
    I think in employment law, you can be temporarily laid off for up to 7 weeks - usually in, say, a company going into examinership where there's a chance of it being bought/restructured. As a formal process, this should overrule non-payment of wages Joe Strummer mentions.

    So probably the same thing holds here. But who's going to be looking at transfers now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I think in employment law, you can be temporarily laid off for up to 7 weeks - usually in, say, a company going into examinership where there's a chance of it being bought/restructured. As a formal process, this should overrule non-payment of wages Joe Strummer mentions.

    So probably the same thing holds here. But who's going to be looking at transfers now?
    Just interested if a player potentially wanted to move upon the league restarting what the situation would be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Tapping up has started already!
    Do you actually believe it ever stops ? Clubs having a quiet unofficial word with other clubs players is ever present in LOI always has been always will be.

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    Another factor I suppose is that legislation is being drawn up on a regular basis specifically for this issue.

    I don't think it's possible to say how it'd affect someone looking for a transfer tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop View Post
    Nobody is getting carried away, it's pretty clear everyone is talking about the potential return date fully aware of the huge astrix beside it. We're not doctors or medical experts, we're random people on the Internet that want to talk about LOI so obviously that's what we're going to talk about here. Everyone knows that it's not the priority but you don't have to focus on the priority 24/7.
    Financially though abandoning the league is just putting a bullet in every single club in the county, and I include Rovers and Dundalk in that. Might not kill those two but it would come very close at least. Abandoning a league at professional level never makes sense for anyone involved. It'll have to be finished in some form one way or another.
    Who haven't a fecking clue wtf's going on.?

    Why will IT have to be finished in some form or another?

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    Reckon April will be a huge month in how things are proceeding if things are still getting worse by the end of April then forget about season 2020.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado View Post
    Who haven't a fecking clue wtf's going on.?

    Why will IT have to be finished in some form or another?
    Yeah we haven't a clue what's going on and we're on a LOI forum reacting to updates on the LOI. Giving out to people for discussing the latest news on the LOIs return rather that life in general on here is just ridiculous nit picking and completely unnecessary.

    And yeah it does have to be finished in some form or else every club in the country is going to the wall because they'll have to honour contracts and potentially pay out refunds with absolutely no income whatsoever. Nevermind all the problems it'll cause regarding Europe. Abandoning the league completely would be the final nail in the coffin for clubs and considering we still have 10 months before the next season starts completely ridiculous to be even considering at this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop View Post
    Yeah we haven't a clue what's going on and we're on a LOI forum reacting to updates on the LOI. Giving out to people for discussing the latest news on the LOIs return rather that life in general on here is just ridiculous nit picking and completely unnecessary.

    And yeah it does have to be finished in some form or else every club in the country is going to the wall because they'll have to honour contracts and potentially pay out refunds with absolutely no income whatsoever. Nevermind all the problems it'll cause regarding Europe. Abandoning the league completely would be the final nail in the coffin for clubs and considering we still have 10 months before the next season starts completely ridiculous to be even considering at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    The argument free zone didn't last long

    Hardly an argument.

    God help anyone about to be stuck with the same people 24/7 for the next two weeks that classes that as an argument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D24Saint View Post
    Reckon April will be a huge month in how things are proceeding if things are still getting worse by the end of April then forget about season 2020.
    Ignoring the contractual problem for a moment, and I know it doesn't affect the LOI nearly as much as other countries' leagues, but is there any merit for extending the 2019/2020 season into 2021 if need be and completely bypassing the 2020/2021 season completely.

    This way "voiding" doesn't come into it. And then if all is well, start the 2021/2022 season as normal (or as normal as possible as you can with Qatar looming.
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    I would say if this goes on another couple of months, UEFA will probably jump in with formal guidance as to how to proceed, particularly with regards European spots.

    In England, non-league seasons have been voided - so no promotion/relegation. Obviously Liverpool will be trying desperately to avoid the same thing happening further up...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop View Post
    Hardly an argument.

    God help anyone about to be stuck with the same people 24/7 for the next two weeks that classes that as an argument.
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