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    Drogs v UCD 840 or something close(Tweet seems to have disappeared)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado View Post
    Drogs v UCD 840 or something close(Tweet seems to have disappeared)
    Wexford v Galway 218 https://twitter.com/WexfordFC/status...59476429549575
    Drogs seem to have decent team this year , will their price structure hurt their crowds ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D24Saint View Post
    Drogs seem to have decent team this year , will their price structure hurt their crowds ?
    Adult online price is €13 gate price is €15.

    Do you think it's too low or too high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Adult online price is Ä13 gate price is Ä15.

    Do you think it's too low or too high?
    my mistake I thought I saw someone on here complaining about their prices so assumed they still charged their old premier division fees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Adult online price is €13 gate price is €15.

    Do you think it's too low or too high?
    Ä13 into a shed with no seats (I'm talking about away end) and a wall to pish against for the jack's. Would you say 13 euro is good value

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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    €13 into a shed with no seats (I'm talking about away end) and a wall to pish against for the jack's. Would you say 13 euro is good value
    The ground is poor, but I doubt if reduced prices would have much impact on attendances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    The ground is poor, but I doubt if reduced prices would have much impact on attendances.
    Almost 20 quid into a stand that is barely much higher than pitch level, maybe you're right and the same amount would turn up at Ä15 but when you see it's only a tenner into a ground like Longford it's hard to argue Drogheda are offering any sort of value

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    Quote Originally Posted by outspoken View Post
    Almost 20 quid into a stand that is barely much higher than pitch level, maybe you're right and the same amount would turn up at €15 but when you see it's only a tenner into a ground like Longford it's hard to argue Drogheda are offering any sort of value
    I'm not suggesting it is value (although if I have always willingly paid €15 in to the away end when Dundalk play there, is that a contradiction of some sort?).

    The original question I responded to was about the price structure influencing crowds - I doubt if it has much impact in Drogheda's case.

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    First update of the season, brought to you by COVID-19.

    PREMIER DIVISION

    Bohs - 3,333 (2,878; 2,148; 2,006; 1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488)
    Cork - 3,164 (2,505; 4,245; 4,559; 2,533; 3,263; 3,777; 1,965; 2,786; 2,128 FD)
    Derry - 3,200 (2,878; 2,297; 1,517; 1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135)
    Dundalk - 2,700 (2,775; 2,738; 2,674; 2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355)
    Harps - 1,910 (1,153; 708 FD; 1,202; 1,216; 784 FD; 449 FD; 479 FD; 429 FD; 433 FD; 644 FD)
    Pat's - 2,443 (1,887; 1,621; 1,504; 1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346)
    Rovers - 6,314 (3,445; 2,749; 2,809; 2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779)
    Shels - 3,032 (1,075 FD; 654 FD; 496 FD; 554 FD; 596 FD; 713 FD; 1,114; 1,187; 781 FD)
    Sligo - 2,265 (1,995; 1,853; 1,717; 1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103)
    Waterford - 1,882 (1,597; 2,329; 1,550 FD; 314 FD; 460 FD; 470 FD; 478 FD; 453 FD; 466 FD)

    FIRST DIVISION

    Athlone - 261 (369; 130; 154; 156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200)
    Bray - 1,106 (798; 643 PD; 966 PD; 957 PD; 769 PD; 718 PD; 891 PD; 965 PD; 1,121 PD)
    Cabinteely - 401 (370; 261; 346; 352; 610)
    Cobh - 440 (280; 236; 358; 403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681)
    Drogheda - 737 (928; 377; 850 PD; 583; 813 PD; 1,064 PD; 817 PD; 977 PD; 811 PD)
    Galway - 0 (795; 746; 1,376 PD; 1,169 PD; 1,290 PD; 975)
    Longford - 442 (611; 449; 342; 488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315)
    Rovers II - 312 (231 - 2014)
    UCD - 200 (735 PD; 365; 236; 297; 216; 397 PD; 487 PD; 506 PD; 558 PD; 610 PD)
    Wexford - 212 (235; 181; 338; 585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216)

    PREMIER AVERAGE: 2,986 (2,185; 2,170; 1,902; 1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547)
    FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 454(586; 413; 477; 476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578)

    OVERALL AVERAGE: 2,046 (1,500; 1,249; 1,387; 1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110)


    OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 65,697 (393,238; 316,515; 376,627; 292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
    OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 5,900 (79,115; 55,756; 53,461; 52,807; 54,474; 55,408)

    OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 71,597 (472,353; 372,271; 430,088; 345,011; 387,279; 352,742)

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    Cheers Nigel.
    Some huge increases, could see big crowds continue when/If season starts again, people will be desperate to see some live football

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Cheers Nigel.
    Some huge increases, could see big crowds continue when/If season starts again, people will be desperate to see some live football
    It could go either way I reckon. When things return to normality it could be the case that people will flock to events, or they could be wary of mass gatherings if this affects their physiology. Itís also the case that disposable income will be way down when the dust settles on all this and could bring on a recession, something that has never favoured LOI clubs.

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    Dundalk seem to be stuck on 2,700 since 2016. This has nothing to do with the away end, as some clubs do takedecent away support, I've said it before, there is certain 'laziness' with our core support in picking games they go to.

    This team should be getting 3k min.
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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    Dundalk seem to be stuck on 2,700 since 2016. This has nothing to do with the away end, as some clubs do takedecent away support, I've said it before, there is certain 'laziness' with our core support in picking games they go to.

    This team should be getting 3k min.
    Don't forget that Dundalk only has a population of 65,000 people. It could obviously draw bigger crowds, but not much bigger for a small town with another club in the same county eating into their potential support too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    Dundalk seem to be stuck on 2,700 since 2016. This has nothing to do with the away end, as some clubs do takedecent away support
    You can't just outright dismiss a very valid factor just because you don't like it. Especially not when it's a factor that is never, and never will be, relevant to you.

    Anyway everyone knows why Dundalks attendances have plateaued where they have, some factors Dundalk can work on, some are league dependent, some require wider societal changes.
    Last edited by RathfarnhamHoop; 26/03/2020 at 6:05 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    Dundalk seem to be stuck on 2,700 since 2016. This has nothing to do with the away end, as some clubs do takedecent away support, I've said it before, there is certain 'laziness' with our core support in picking games they go to.

    This team should be getting 3k min.
    This 'laziness' narrative is also regularly trotted out by some on OW and could be generously described as, ahem, lazy. Blaming people for not attending rarely encourages them to come more regularly and obscures analysis of the actual reasons.

    The limitations of the ground in the context of cover and sight lines means that it is very difficult to increase the consistent home support. When the attendance level is circa 2250 - 2500 there is reasonable rain cover and sights lines with the obvious exception of the away end.

    Beyond that attendance level it creates a sharp down trajectory in the match experience - it is not especially attractive to take kids where they are likely to get soaked in the rain or have limited views of the match. It becomes a near impossible task to turn large numbers of casuals into regulars with these issues.

    The away end is not the problem itself - it is just one part of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EatYerGreens View Post
    Don't forget that Dundalk only has a population of 65,000 people. It could obviously draw bigger crowds, but not much bigger for a small town with another club in the same county eating into their potential support too.
    Its a lot less than that, I think 45k in the town, add in Blackrock area maybe 50k, but def no more than that.

    However there is not a lot to attract locals on a wet night, ridiculous at this stage that even more modest short term improvements can't be installed. How hard can be it to be build a roof on both sides of the stand that doesn't impede the stand, and even a terrace behind the town goal?

    No one is asking for overnight miracles, gradual improvements would be nice, and this would increase crowds in my view, this and better food / drinks / toilets all over the ground, yes there is a good core going to home games, but this should be the only show in town on a Friday, in the current state its not.
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    Oriel -
    Dundalk town has a population just shy of 30k.Throw in Blackrock,Bellingham and the peninsula you get 45k.
    Dunleer and anything south of there is Drogheda.
    Dundalk supporters north of the border(and there are a good few) are mostly Dundalk native.North of Killeen border crossing is prob 0
    This exercise was done before.Dundalk for the population we have is punching above its weight,and Sligo also.Shams attendance same % as Dundalk re population and attendances and i think Derry was in there.

    The yanks in Dundalk spin improving the ground to paying say McEleney's wages.
    Which would you want?

    Hypothetical question
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    To be honest the whole small improvements, stick a roof on kinda of thinking is a false economy, it wonít happen, no one will do it because for Oriel it has reached the stage of keep it as it is or a proper redevelopment.

    Anything else would be a stop gap that would have to be destroyed in the event of a proper redevelopment (which surely inevitably will come) and therefore a waste of money.

    I canít blame Dundalk at this stage for letting it completely rot to the extent that it becomes entirely not fit for purpose then somehow get a proper redevelopment.

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