QuoteSorry, I was offering the view of someone who doesn't quite see him as the combination of Satan and the missing link.Originally Posted by Éanna
A "certain etiquette"?! He lacks any etiquette, decorum, manners or semblance of civilised human interaction. The man is a thug and a bully, simple as that.
Shhh, his minions will inform him and you'll be sued for defamation...
Sorry, I was offering the view of someone who doesn't quite see him as the combination of Satan and the missing link.
If Satan's lawyers see him being compared to a thug like Byrne, they'll be on your case in the morning. As for the missing ink, well, he's bound to be highly offended as he was significantly further along the evolutionary chain than poor ol' OilySorry, I was offering the view of someone who doesn't quite see him as the combination of Satan and the missing link.
Olly Byrne didn't make that statement that was the supporters club.
How many bleedin' times does it need to be said?
Olly Byrne didn't make that statement that was the supporters club.
How many bleedin' times does it need to be said?Well?Did the Shelbourne supporters club release a statement condemning Ollie Byrne's assault on Derry fans, thuggish actions towards Pats fans or his attempted assault on a steward at Turners Cross a few years back. "Glass houses" and all that
No, and you're right they should have but that was never going to happen was it? No club supporters club would do that.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/2005/05/23/story203749.html#
Sorry Slash I got it mixed up with this one. I never actually saw that pointed out. The poster of the topic started laying into Byrne right after the quote. Got my wires a bit crossed. However my general point remains the same.
All I'm saying is it's a bit rich of Ollie Byrne to give out about people being involved in football-related violence, given his past behaviour. And it's a also a bit rich of the Shels Supporters Club to do so given Byrne's behaviour- I accept it was never going to happen, just making the point. Ollie is trying to portray Shels/himself as whiter than white, and it's downright hypocrisy given his past (and no doubt future) actions
Tbh that headline is a bit sensationalist he doesn't say they should be kicked out just the made up on the spot 8 point deduction was half arsed, which it was. It's none of his business though and he shouldn't be getting involved but he doesn't say that the headline says he says imo.
"We all lose our heads in a moment of passion in sport, but you don’t come with a pre-meditated attitude to do some damage to people and that’s what happened" is what he said, and he is right. He's never done that either but, and in fairness he's the first to admit it, has lost the head many times which is obviously completley out of order. He's talking about something different though.
The SSC was simply distancing the Shels fans from the typically woeful sensationalist media crap saying we were involved in 'riots' with the Linfield fans.
No he doesn't say it, but knowing the way the guy operates, I doubt any journo would dare put that kind of headline on it unless Ollie okayed it!!!!
BTW, I love his little "insurance" quote at the startI presume that can be translated as Ollie saying "Me lose head ok, Rovers bad"We all lose our heads in a moment of passion in sport,
True. It's a bit badly put together but there does seem to be a correlation in his point about the violence of the shirted thugs and his annoyance over their punishment for the licencing.
But also, given that the other statement is not Byrne, I am surprised. Shouldn't the Supporters' Club know better than to go tarnishing other eL fans to the press instead of just protesting their own innocence? The media, Herald especially just loves to print this, it would fit in nicely with their reports on the demise of Rovers.
If it was only that, I'd have no problem with it. Its the fact that they are shifting the blame onto Rovers and their fans that I think is objectionable- Ollie pretty much accuses SRFC of allowing the violence to have taken place. That's a very serious allegation and one that does nobody in this league any good
Yeah they shouldn't be giving the media the ammo that they will use. The statement was, as I've said, poorly worded. They needed to make one but they could have done alot better. They did at least say it was only thugs wearing Rovers gear instead of saying they were hardcore Rovers fans.
Pretty much what I've been trying to say Éanna. Also given the fact that to non-eL fans Rovers are a big name and to some still the only name they know well, to see them tarnished again in the press reflects poorly on our league and is off putting to poetnetial fans.
There's nothing Rovers can do about it, you're right there. If it happened isnide Dalymount that'd be different but what does he expect them to do? Like I said he shouldn't be getting involved in their business but as with all things Shelbourne and even remotely Olly related it's getting blown way out of proportion by people on here..
True they did word it a bit carefully but said more than needed to be said. Fair play to you for saying Slash.
Thisis the bit I object to. He's effectively saying that SRFC are allowing pre-meditated violence to take place. A comment like that is indefensible IMOThe clubs know the individuals involved and it’s about time it was stopped
That's the bit I disagree with too. It happened outside Dalymount, there's nothing Rovers could have done about it.
I wouldn't quite say that Éanna. I thought the comment was also stupid but from the perspective I think that he was saying they should be banned from Rovers games which in effect would not be enough to stop this. I don't think he tought that comment out too well but not meaning to be nasty he isn't too articulate.
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