Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Agree completely! Reid & O'Shea in the middle....HA!
I think this guy is havin' a laugh...
"Inflatable hammers and Leprechaun suits, & a chorus of "Here we go" or Olé, Olé"....
O'Shea has probably played about 3 games in centre midfield in his entire career, even then in the League Cup, has Reid EVER played central midfield, not just in the withdrawn strikers role, but actually dictating play, ball winning, tracking back, central midfield?? I doubt it.
As a (forlorn) Forest fan I can say a definite "Yes" to Reidy but this was in the Championship....a far cry from International level and qualifying for the World Cup...best used on the wing on "in the hole".....(I hope I don't have to explain that to anyone!)
"Inflatable hammers and Leprechaun suits, & a chorus of "Here we go" or Olé, Olé"....
Whatever attributes JOS has, accurate passing is not one of them. His passing is very sloppy and at times he appears to go asleep and conceeds possession to the opposition too easily
"I'd rather play in front of a full house than an empty crowd" Johnny Giles
ye i've watched reid many times for forest and what they used 2 do was reid wud sit infront of the defence wen paul gerrard had the ball and he would roll it out to reid who would then attempt to get things moving for them , was quite successful a number of times in what was and is an awful side but you know full well kerr wont risk anything in that game. its obviously going to be kilbane and kavanagh so i dont even know why this thread exists, kerr always goes for tried and tested things in the competatives and an earlier post from eirebhoy outlined the games where the two have performed alongside each other
Total bull. Compare O'Shea's passing to Kilbanes for god's sake.
And your comment's about being "sloppy" and "going to sleep" are just a bunch of cliché's. If we played Andy Reid and John O'Shea in the centre against Isreal we would pass them off the park. With Duff on the left and Finnan on the right we would for once have a midfield, without Roy Keane, in which all 4 players can actually pass the ball competently. Kilbane would slot in at left back and Kelly is the obvious choice on the right.
I shudder at the thought of the days it was Kilbane - Holland - Kinsella - McAteer accross the middle. How we ever won a match I will never know.
Fine, show us the stats for O'Shea's and Reid's passing versus Kilbane? It's all very well posturing and posing and spouting this drivel (and it is drivel) now show us the facts to support it
I've seen enough of JOS to form my opinion that he is not a great passer of the ball and is certainly not one of our best. I would rate Finnan, Roy Keane, Kavanagh, Kilbane, Duff and Holland better at passing the ball. Apologies for using cliches I'll try to meet your high standard of original prose in the future.
"I'd rather play in front of a full house than an empty crowd" Johnny Giles
Is Holland not tried and tested ??
Stephen Reid is better than Andy Reid IMO. Andy Reid is along with Liam Miller the most overrated player ever to don a Republic of Ireland shirt.
stephen reid reeks of average while andy reid is pure quality ... liam miller id agree with .. would like to see kav and kilbane but would also not be too bothered if he chose matty and kilbane cause very little between the two imo ...Stephen Reid is better than Andy Reid IMO. Andy Reid is along with Liam Miller the most overrated player ever to don a Republic of Ireland shirt.
Blasphemy!Stephen Reid is better than Andy Reid IMO. Andy Reid is along with Liam Miller the most overrated player ever to don a Republic of Ireland shirt.
Andy Reid is pure gold and is going to come very good for us. He hasn't had much of crack of the whip in competitive internationals - ran the game against Cyprus when he also scored, didn't put a foot wrong against Frogs and played fine out of position against Faroes. Only nothing game he has had so far was against Swiss in Basel, where in fairness he was in good company in terms of underperforming. Finally we have a player with an eye for the killer ball and the ability to deliver it with too. I don't know how you could say he is over-rated - to my knowledge nobody has been talking THAT highly of him...
If the team with the best individuals won, Greece would not be the champions of Europe and O'Brien-Cunningham wouldn't have one of the world's most impressive records together. I'm sure livehead meant that Kav-Kilbane is tried and tested. Holland-Kilbane is tried but Holland failed miserabely. Maybe it was a one off but its not worth the risk.
i'd play Kav and Reid, with Duff and Reid on the wings.
(got ye thinking there)
sorry ? holland failed miserabely ? very harsh .... quality player and does a good job with killa imo
They only played one time together and he failed miserably. Look a few posts back, I'm not repeating myself.
thought they did alright complemented each other well... id be happy with either kav or matty with killa .. either duo should be enough to dominate midfield..They only played one time together and he failed miserably. Look a few posts back, I'm not repeating myself.
I'll post everyone's comments from the Czech Republic match thread but it is clear Holland failed in his only match partnering Kilbane and it would be a risk:
Holland 6 - Quietly efficient. Did ok as emergency centre back.
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Holland 5 - Hasn't done anything in an Irish shirt since World Cup.
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MATT HOLLAND: Anonymous in midfield and at fault for the goal. Needs to start reproducing his premiership form at international level.
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Holland 6 No injury worries in 29 yrs never mind 4 yrs. Not competitive enough. We need a competitive midfielder who can pass the bal. He is not it.
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Holland 5 - Not joking .... but honestly kept forgetting he was on the pitch.
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Holland 5 - His usual pathetic self. Lazy, uncomitted and unable to pass the ball more than 10 yards. Shouldn't be in the squad.
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Holland 5: Hardly noticed him until he went centre back and was forced to play
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Holland probably doesn't even deserve a 5. Did he actually do anything of note last night?
Kav should be a definite seen as Roy is out then Killer probably
Its kind of funny that anyone could think that Stephen Reid is better than Andy.Stephen Reid is better than Andy Reid IMO. Andy Reid is along with Liam Miller the most overrated player ever to don a Republic of Ireland shirt.
Fair enough on Miller, he is rubbish, but Andy Reid will be one of the best players ever to pull on a green jersey.
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