QuoteI hope the Faroes game is as easy as you think it'll be.Originally Posted by JimmyP
Germany, who went on to the WC Final that year and who we struggled to draw with, only scored in injury time out there. France only beat them 2-0 I think.
We haven't given away any ridiculous goals under O'Shea. I remember him playing terribly against the Swiss away in the last campaign, as did every Irish player on the pitch. I think he'll do fine against the Israelis and is definitely better than Harte defensively.
Against the Faroes, you could be on to something, Jimmy P, although I'd be nervous of him going walkabout while some handy fisherman is standing on his own upfront...
I hope the Faroes game is as easy as you think it'll be.
Germany, who went on to the WC Final that year and who we struggled to draw with, only scored in injury time out there. France only beat them 2-0 I think.
It be Kavanagh holding with Kilbane ahead of him with duff on one wing and reid on the other, finnan drop to right back with o'shea left. The two centre halves are o'brien and cunningham with given goalie. keane and morrison up front
I didn't say it was going to be easy, I'm aware of their home record, so I'm saying that to try and make sure of a win, I think we can afford to play a more attacking line-up with the Faroes, that's all.
OK, fair point!
His lack of pace and poor defensive vision has hardly changed since his time in Spain. Give me O'Shea (warts and all) anytime unless it's 0-0 and going into injury time and we've a free kick on the edge of the box.
stevey reid in centre mid is a possibility for the future. holland, kilbane, kav and keane all being over 30(or near it in the case of kev) is not for the best.
miller, healy, barret, quinn, mahon and douglas will not be forming deadly centre mid partnerships any time soon so steve reid is the one to watch.
Agreed. I have hunch it could be Steve Reid and O'Shea in a few years. Remember Andy Reid plays well centrally too. I'm still holding out hope for Miller but this is probably a bit naive. I like Quinn but he needs to step up a level. I'm hoping Glen Whelan wins his play off.
It's be Kav and Kilbane which should be enough...I hope.
A quick aside, I am going to be home for the match and I was offered a chance to buy tickets on the North Touchline. Are these good seats?
There is no such thing as a miracle cure, a free lunch or a humble opinion.
I reckon any seats are good seats!
The north terrace is behind one of the goals so if your right down at the pitch level you wont have a great view, still better than nothing though.
As long as O'shea didnt get too badly injured in the cup final and everyone else is fit that'll almost certainly be the team that starts against israelIt be Kavanagh holding with Kilbane ahead of him with duff on one wing and reid on the other, finnan drop to right back with o'shea left. The two centre halves are o'brien and cunningham with given goalie. keane and morrison up front
So North Touchline means the north terrace? They are in the 2nd row. Which sounds good but the way you make it sound they are behing the goals.
Feck, might just go ahead and spend the money.
There is no such thing as a miracle cure, a free lunch or a humble opinion.
On that note, anyone got tickets to spare for the Israeli game? I haven't missed a home game for about three years but I'm not with a club so getting tickets is always a nightmare. PM me if you do, cheers.
Definitley Kavanagh and Kilbane.
Steven Reid has had a decent run of form the last few months - even with some MOM performances amongst them.
But a a crucial WC qualifier like is no game to be chancing our arm. A repeat of his horrific no show against the Russians at Lansdowne, is what has most of us worried I'd wager.
Kavanagh - Kilbane for me are the shoe ins. Though I'm its a wee bit worrying that Kilbane's form has dropped the last couple of months or so. Or thats the impression I've had. Difficult to be thoroughly knowledgable out here in Banff!
Maybe the end of season rest will have done well. It's not Reid's no show against the Russians that I'm afraid of, it's the entire team's no-show that's in my mind. If we stand off this crowd, they'll kill the game. Israel can be beaten comprehensively and put back in their box, I really do believe that, despite the hype that has built up around their results.
Agreed!
Quote Donal81..Israel can be beaten comprehensively.
Any team can be beaten comprehensively depending on their tactics and how they prepare for the game.I think Israel will be well prepared for this one and the fact that they are still in with as big a chance as us, it gives them even more an insentive to do well.I still think we can win it if we go out there beliving we can ,but it will be very very close and i will be very surprised if we beat them without a struggle.I pray i eat my words.
John O'Shea and Andy Reid.
The 2 best passers of the ball we have that can play in central midfield and when you consider that our central midfielders will have loads of the ball against Israel it is logical to play the players who will make most use of the ball there.
Of course there is not a snowballs chance in hell that anyone (most notibly Brian Kerr) is actually going to understand this logic.
Last edited by carnstien; 25/05/2005 at 3:31 PM.
John O'Shea better passer than Kavanagh? My arse. O'Shea is nowhere near as good a central midfielder as Kav is. Reid-O'Shea, jesus, we'd be murdered. Teams rarely get lower than 40% possession in a match. Of course I don't understand that logic. I wouldn't even be so complacent as to play either of those players in the centre against Israel. To play both is taking the biscuit.
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