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    We're not talking about a few puns, we're talking about page after page of them

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    So what?

    We're not talking about one poster objecting to what you're doing; we're talking about page after page of them. You're still ignoring that point.

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    It's nice to see a busy thread on foot.ie again
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    I did a bit of digging into the Sammon forum to see how bad the pun problem is.

    The thread started on 13 November 2010, and the first 22 pages (440 posts) took it to 23 September 2014, a three year, 10 month period which roughly coincided with his peak/Ireland years. In five years, four months since then, there are 71 posts on four pages:


    • There are six puns on page 23 (23 September 2014 - 26 July 2015), the first of which acknowledges an Irish Indo headline that contained a Sammon pun.
    • There are 10 on page 24 (26 July 2015 - 23 January 2018).
    • There are four on page 25, (14 January 2018 - 10 July 2019), if ‘I never expected him to sink so low’ is a pun - while it references his name it could be taken as a face-value comment.
    • There are five in 11 posts on page 26 (10 July 2019 onwards).


    That's 25 puns in 71 posts in a little over five years. I don’t think that's excessive, though I don’t overlook the possibility that some puns may have been deleted, and that could skew the figures.

    We need a solution, not finger-pointing: Tets doesn’t need to apologise or rationalise his dislike of puns. In every other thread he’s a good, even-handed moderator and I think we all respect him for that.

    As I see it, the options are:

    • The thread can be moved – RAM suggested to his LoI threads;
    • Another moderator can take over just this thread;
    • The thread carries on as most posters want it, with puns allowed. We’re looking at a player at the end of his career: the last five years show how little activity there’s been, and how little there’s likely to be. Meanwhile we try to avoid obvious puns that have been done to death. Up the game, lads – nets, scales, streams and the like are the low hanging fruit of punning. (Maybe they come in punnets…?)


    Are there any other suggestions? Should it be put to a vote? Or can we reach an agreement?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    So what?

    We're not talking about one poster objecting to what you're doing; we're talking about page after page of them. You're still ignoring that point.
    You’re swimming upstream with this PS.

    The only option I have any interest in is allow puns.

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    Or, to follow the rule that was established the last time this happened.
    Puns allowed for a day, and if that's ignored they all get deleted.

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    Literally the point of this thread is that that was your rule, and nobody wants it.

    Why won't you accept this?

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    No, there’s no justification or support for it. Only one person has a problem with the puns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    Or, to follow the rule that was established the last time this happened.
    Puns allowed for a day, and if that's ignored they all get deleted.
    But you ignored the rule that puns can't be deleted on days ending in y. I find this difficult to understand. It's a perfectly simple rule.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eminence Grise View Post
    There are four on page 25, (14 January 2018 - 10 July 2019), if ‘I never expected him to sink so low’ is a pun - while it references his name it could be taken as a face-value comment.
    I can confirm that this was indeed an attempt at a pun.

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    Sssh. I figured as much, but you're weakening the argument!
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    Users: Mods are allowed to set local rules, to the forum or even the thread. If it's stated as a rule for that forum, or thread, it's a rule. If it's a silly rule, it can be appealed, but not in the way this thread started. So let's continue focusing on appealing the rule please, and not attacking the mod.

    Tets: While I agree with you that silly threads can be annoying and/or disruptive when they drag on, it's clear users want more leeway here. Do you have a suggestion for a way in which that can be accommodated? We've had free-for-all threads on Foot.ie before, including ones that called me every name under the sun.

    (I'm not saying player threads should be free-for-alls BTW, they shouldn't. Just that there must be a way to accommodate people in some way.)

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    So what exactly was wrong with my opening post?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dahamsta View Post
    So let's continue focusing on appealing the rule please, and not attacking the mod.
    Like this post?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkStu View Post
    So what exactly was wrong with my opening post?
    I give it 9/10.

    If you'd started with 'Aloud or not' I'd have given you full marks.
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    I think given tets is posting elsewhere, he's now ignoring this thread and the various - quite reasonable - requests to change the current rule (although I don't really like to legitimise it like that).

    I think that's very bad form.

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    FWIW there are times when I enjoy a load of puns in a thread and other times when they are annoying and you just want to read actual posts about the subject. Can see both sides of this TBH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    I'm against opening the forum and having to skip 24 new posts all based around the fact that a player's name, or surname, sounds like something else. Towell, Harness, Sammon, etc, to get to something approaching a discussion or news.
    Just scroll past the stuff you don't want to read like the rest of us do.

    These puns only pop up once in a blue moon anyway. It's not like they are disrupting an otherwise active and healthy thread and getting in the way of loads of other posts. There hadn't been a post on the Sammon thread in what, 5 months, and at Sammon's goal-scoring rate, there probably won't be another for quite a while either. The Towell thread hasn't had a single post since 9th of June 2019.

    Is it really that much of a deal to just let it slide?

    Does it give you any pause for thought that you seem to be the only one that is so bothered by it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    I think given tets is posting elsewhere, he's now ignoring this thread and the various - quite reasonable - requests to change the current rule (although I don't really like to legitimise it like that).

    I think that's very bad form.
    haven't been ignoring it at all, I just haven't replied.

    I still think my way is the best - a day where you can post any puns you want, and then we all move on with our lives
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    Quote Originally Posted by tetsujin1979 View Post
    haven't been ignoring it at all, I just haven't replied.

    I still think my way is the best - a day where you can post any puns you want, and then we all move on with our lives
    You haven't addressed the overwhelming disagreement of the posters with you on this - could we even find one person agreeing with you if we trawled through the whole thread?

    I would also argue you did not communicate effectively in the Sammon thread. "One day" was the entirety of your post, and it might as well have been whale song - I certainly had no idea that this was a mod warning and seem not to have been alone in that.

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