Now that you mention it PS, Jesus same initials as THAT other thingdidn't the champions of the Cyprus league qualify for the Greek First Division once??????
May be totally wrong about this but I seem to recall something about it in the past.
Be great to see Vaduz in the Swiss First Divisiion - kinda keep an eye on them as well.
Hmmmm. Not a clue Hamish. That's one for Gerrit.I do know San Marino have a club side in Serie C 1 or 2.
And moving closer back to the topic title ever so slightly a New Zealand team plays in the Australian league. Aukland Kingz isn't it? Despite them having their own league.
They seem to have money behind them too = some player from an English club joined them recently - they offered better terms but can't recall his name.
I remember too the old NASL when Canadian clubs played same league as US clubs.
Also isn't the Los Angeles club Chivas(?) a spin off of a Mexican League club?
Cross-border playings as far as I know (round-up, some of them were named already) :
- Derry City: Northern Irish team in the Irish league
- Liechtenstein clubs : all 7 of them in the Swiss leagues
- Campionese : Italian enclave's team playing in the Swiss leagues
- San Marino: has its own domestic league but one semi-professional teams plays in Serie C in italy
- Andorra: has itw own domestic league but one semi-professional team plays in Spanish third division
- Auckland Kingz: New Zealand's only professional club plays in the Aussie league
- one Chinese team plays in the Hong Kong league, not sure of the name of the club though
- 5 Canadian semi-pro clubs playing in the American leagues (incl. Montreal, Toronto, Vancouver, and I think Calgary and another city)
- all clubs from Finland's off-coast Aland Islands play in the Swedish lower divisions because the islands are Swedish-speaking
- three Welsh professional/semi-pro teams (Cardiff, Wrexham, Swansea) playing in the English leagues
- one English team playing in the Scottish leagues (Berwick ??)
- one or two English teams playing in the Welsh league, not sure of the names though
- the only club in Brunei competes in the Malaysian league
Never heard of a Cypriot team in the Greek league systems. Would surprise me a lot as well as it is a seperate country with a well-organised league.
In the past the two only Luxembourg ladies' teams competed in the Belgian leagues, until other girls teams were born and Luxembourg formed its own league. I never could verify the two teams that used to play cross-border but I got the info that it was true from a more or less reliable source, so see this info as 80% chance to be true !! One of the teams would be Troisvierges (which would mean "Three Virgins"
Sirhamish's memory serves his faithfully - I believe this arrangement was in place from the late sixties to the early seventies.Originally Posted by Gerrit
A leading authority on League of Ireland football since 2003. You're probably wrong.
Just to add: Jeunesse Sportive de la Massira from the Western Sahara competes in the Moroccan highest division (but is this really to be seen as cross-border ?!)
And SirHamish, Kosovo has already played Albania twice. Check this site for all results of every national team ever, including friendlies from small islands with only unofficial FA's: http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~mcruic/recordss.htm
Incredible piece of research. Incredible to see which islands and places have national teams... Even the Shetland Islands, Inner Mongolia, Palau, Christmas Island, Saar, etc have a national team or used to have
The Kingz will compete in the new Australian A-League (league starts last week in August) under their new name "New Zealand Knights". Not only will the play outside of their own country but when Australia joins the Asian Federation (remember, that was what this thread was all about once upon a time) they will play outside of their own federation!
True about the NASL however if I recall correctly they were never recognised as an official league by FIFA. Yes they are called Chivas USA they are a spin off of Guadalajara Chivas the Mexican club. The idea was or is to capitalise on the large Latin American population in LA. However they bizarrely went and appointed some European as coach when the idea should have been to appoint a Mexican to play some flair Latin football. As far as I know the MLS is quite a boring style league which often employed conservative style European coaches. They have since sacked the European guy Thomas Rongen. They're bottom of the MLS Western conference. I am not entirely sure of the relationship between Chivas USA and Guadalajara Chivas but they are not their B Team.
Gerrit the Canadian teams playing in the US you mentioned play in the A-League which is the level below the MLS. It's kind of odd though, there is no connection between it and the MLS really. No relegation or promotion. It has teams in areas MLS doesn't and gets similar crowds I think. There's no Canadian teams in the MLS however.
Wait a minute. I never considered this. Will leaving the OFC mean Australian clubs will not play in Asian continental competitions? This would be an interesting implication as Aussie clubs were nearly guaranteed access to the World Club Championship with their domination of Oceana continental competition. Imagine the travel expense burden.
Gerrit Berwick are the club in England playing in Scotland. However I read before the Berwick used to be in Scotland until a slight border change. No idea when that was.
Also, dooesn't the Basque country play one "international" every year in Bilbao?
Jesus what a site!Check this site for all results of every national team ever, including friendlies from small islands with only unofficial FA's: http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~mcruic/recordss.htm
Incredible piece of research. Incredible to see which islands and places have national teams... Even the Shetland Islands, Inner Mongolia, Palau, Christmas Island, Saar, etc have a national team or used to have
From http://privatewww.essex.ac.uk/~mcruic/EUSKADI.htm Played every year since 1993:
29-12-2004 - Euskadi 2 - 0 Honduras - Friendly
27-12-2003 - Euskadi 2 - 1 Uruguay - Friendly
28-12-2002 - Euskadi 1 - 1 Macedonia - Friendly
29-12-2001 - Euskadi 3 - 2 Ghana - Friendly
29-12-2000 - Euskadi 3 - 2 Morocco - Friendly
29-12-1999 - Euskadi 5 - 1 Nigeria - Friendly
22-12-1998 - Euskadi 5 - 1 Uruguay - Friendly
26-12-1997 - Euskadi 3 - 1 Yugoslavia - Friendly
26-12-1996 - Euskadi 3 - 0 Estonia - Friendly
22-12-1995 - Euskadi 1 - 1 Paraguay - Friendly
23-12-1994 - Euskadi 1 - 0 Russia - Friendly
22-12-1993 - Euskadi 3 - 1 Bolivia - Friendly
Also beat us 4-1 in 1979.
I think PS, that the owner of the Mexican club also owns theLA based club and obviously is trying to tap in to the huge Latino comunity there.True about the NASL however if I recall correctly they were never recognised as an official league by FIFA. Yes they are called Chivas USA they are a spin off of Guadalajara Chivas the Mexican club. The idea was or is to capitalise on the large Latin American population in LA. However they bizarrely went and appointed some European as coach when the idea should have been to appoint a Mexican to play some flair Latin football. As far as I know the MLS is quite a boring style league which often employed conservative style European coaches. They have since sacked the European guy Thomas Rongen. They're bottom of the MLS Western conference. I am not entirely sure of the relationship between Chivas USA and Guadalajara Chivas but they are not their B Team.
Gerrit the Canadian teams playing in the US you mentioned play in the A-League which is the level below the MLS. It's kind of odd though, there is no connection between it and the MLS really. No relegation or promotion. It has teams in areas MLS doesn't and gets similar crowds I think. There's no Canadian teams in the MLS however.
Wait a minute. I never considered this. Will leaving the OFC mean Australian clubs will not play in Asian continental competitions? This would be an interesting implication as Aussie clubs were nearly guaranteed access to the World Club Championship with their domination of Oceana continental competition. Imagine the travel expense burden.
Gerrit Berwick are the club in England playing in Scotland. However I read before the Berwick used to be in Scotland until a slight border change. No idea when that was.
Also, dooesn't the Basque country play one "international" every year in Bilbao?
Yeah, read about the problems you mentioned with Chivas in some footie mag azine.
Thank God, with you brainboxes, glad I know a little of something that's going on.
Would the Inner Mongolia game Gerrit mentioned have some connection to China's political forays into Central Africa and area in the past??
That makes a fcukin' change!!
Our man Andy Selva scored for San Marino today, in a 1-3 home defeat by Bosnia-Herz. Malta got thumped 0-6 in Sweden, they've really regressed in recent years.
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Couple of good points there PS- First up, the issue of almost automatic qualification as Oceanic champions. Certainly there has been many advantages: Australia will play in the Confederation Cup this month, Sydney FC look likely to secure the Oceania place in the World Club Championshps (& guarantee themselves US$1 million). But this has been negated by the total lack of success in the World Cup and Australia realises that joining Asia will lead t oa more equitable qualifying process. Australia has more registered 'soccer' players than players of aussie rules, rugby union & rugby league combined so if they can break through & qualify for Germany, the commercial impliactions are huge.This would be an interesting implication as Aussie clubs were nearly guaranteed access to the World Club Championship with their domination of Oceana continental competition. Imagine the travel expense burden.
Plus an Aussie team in the Asian Champions league will also lead to a financial windfall.
An interesting commercial deal happened this week in Sydney. basically Australia has the opposite of the stadium situation in Ireland- They have multiple stadia & multiple cities all vying to host the oceanic qualifier vs the 5th best South American team in November. Sydney's telstra Stadium (the olympic stadium) won out (due in no small part to the unavailability of the MCG due to the Commonwealth games). NSW government estimated that this will lead ot a windfall of AU$20 million for the city & as such they paid $$$ to secure the tie in Sydney. I am unsure at this stage exactly how much they paid for the right to host the game (certainly in 7 figures though). I find this interesting compared to our own current stadium farce.
I know that the MLS is not allowed to accept non-US based teams, so the Canadian teams cannot get higher than the A League. Montreal though gets 11000 spectators in average, only one American club (Des Moines) has the same nr in the A League. A Canadian professional league is being formed and will hopefully start soon.
And for the record: most MLS fans absolutely disgust Chivas USA because they still see it as a Mexican team.
Interesting at that site to see the results of some of those non-FIFA-affiliated islands. Shetland played quite often until the late sixties and suddenly it stopped. Why would that be ?! They still have a domestic league (recently won by the local bank staff team) so they could just as well form a team I guess... If Sark and its 600 inhabitants can, why wouldn't Shetland (20000 inh.) do so ??
The Shetland Islands send a team to the NatWest Island Games every other year
Kom Igen, FCK...
Draws for this year's games - which take place in Shetland:
2005 Men's Football
Group 1
Isle of Man
Shetland
Saareema
Aland
Falklands
Group 2
Guernsey
Ynys Mon (Anglesey)
Western Isles
Orkney
Greenland
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2005 Women's Football
Faroes
Guernsey
Isle of Man
Bermuda
Aland
Shetland
Kom Igen, FCK...
Just a question guys. I have a sticker on my fridge for Canberra Cosmos. I got this from an Aussie bloke in 1999.
Can't seem to find anything about them now. Did they fold or amalgamate with another club for the new Aussie set up? Just curious.
Not too up on my Aussie teams, never actually heard of them. However I do know some teams folded/were amalgamated to make way for the new Aussie soccer league.
Cosmos was the most recent club to try & break the Canberra market. They had little or no success. Formed in the mid 90s they never really captured the Canberra sporting public's attention (unlike the Raiders rugby league team & ACT Brumbies rugby union team, both of whom play at the top level) They always seemed to languish at the bottom of the league (a bit like the Drogs in the 90s
I think there final season was 2001 (I think) & from what I recall, most of their local players joined Belconnen Blue Devils, who play in the NSW Superleague (they lost in the final of the NSW Cup last week).
Canberra will not be represented in the new A league.
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