Highly doubt Bournemouth are gonna recall him this early in a loan. January maybe if they feel he's not getting enough minutes but not now.
Needs to be proactive and not passive. So many of our young promising players have dwindled due to passiveness in crucial stages of development. Partly down to poor guidance too. While some may simply not have been good enough, the career decisions and passiveness certainly didn’t help.
For me, Gavin is not every managers cup of tea, especially in the early stages of managing a new team in the championship… it’s a long way to January. Let’s see who they bring in and hope for the best for Gavin
Last edited by tommy_c12000; 25/08/2022 at 3:31 PM.
Alright let's say they could and do to loan him out again. What happens then if he's only getting ten minutes here and there?
He will be with a manager who has actively recruited him which will maximize his chances of getting game time. It’s not rocket science. It’s more of a risk to stay with the unknown.
Still never answered the question what happens it he's still only getting some minutes here and there off the bench with a new team? And what manager is gonna have him scouted to actively want to recruit him to play first team football in the next week.
He started last weekend. Hes at the stage now where its up to him to sink or swim. He needs to prove hes one of the best players at Stoke and keep his place in the team no matter who is manager and not be looking around for an easier option just because there is a new manager.
The manager who just got sacked actively recruited him & didn't play him.Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
Bournemouth too have kept him around & not played him plenty.
This blaming his environment / his manager / club style of play / etc is all well and good but maybe he just needs to be better consistently to be trusted, wherever that is.
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It will be interesting to see if/how this impacts Will Smallbone too. He's been a mainstay in Nimon's team and they have collectively, obviously, performed below par. It could be a changer for both Smallbone and Kilkenny.
Another manager to impress ~ Might as well knuckle down and get on with it ~ It’s professional football ~ Competitive stuff.
Stoke given permission to speak with Alex Neil. Has had a good six months since taking over Sunderland.
Smallbone and Kilkenny both on bench today as caretaker takes charge.
No sign of Kilkenny or Smallbone off the bench today, Alex Neil seems to be their new man in charge. Uncertain times ahead for the pair
Caretaker manager today as Neil not officially announced yet. They'll have plenty of time to impress the new man in the next few weeks.
They will, although I prefer maximizing chances and finding a manager who actively recruits you especially if it’s a loan deal. I guess such proactivity is lacking with some many of our young players/agents. Bazunu is an exemplary example of taking the bull by the horns and taking control of his career/development, Kelleher the polar opposite
What’s this guys next move? I know he had a thigh injury I believe, not much info about it. But he clearly has not had any luck getting game time at stoke. I’d love to see him go continental for the rest of the season. Only a limited amount of managers would “trust” him as a deep lying midfielder at the current time Id imagine, an acquired taste. The change in stoke manager was unfortunate for him
3-0 up in a cup tie, and Gav still can’t get on with 15 minutes to go. He needs to sort this out quickly this month
Blackburn who are third in the league are in talks with Bournemouth about taking Kilkenny on loan for the second half of the season.
The Bournemouth Loan Manager and recruitment team are monitoring Kilkenny's lack of playing time at Stoke (unused sub 7 times since returning from injury, only 3 appearances in all during the loan). "....We'll just monitor the situation and decide what's best for Gavin and best for Bournemouth.” (Gary O'Neill).
No sub appearance today despite comfortable 3-1 cup win vs Stevenage. Bizarre that he’s still at Stoke. Another young Irish player letting his career slip by by showing lack of initiative or having poor guidance
To be fair to Kilkenny, he's clearly very aware of the predicament he's in and that, turning 23 shortly, he needs to be getting games to avoid being forgotten about, as he put it himself. But there's probably only so much he can do all the same.
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