Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 5678 LastLast
Results 121 to 140 of 159

Thread: Potential ramifications for LOI after todays FAI accounts debacle.

  1. #121
    Reserves
    Joined
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    288
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    33
    Thanked in
    17 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Its interesting the additional Cabinet ministers have joined Ross in commenting on this the las 24hrs. In the context of an GE before the summer. Say we qualify in spring and then have to withdraw and Govt dont step in etc if it pans out before an election the the FAI may have a chance albeit a high risk strategy.
    You could argue that funding the FAI to the tune of 18 million may loose them more votes than they may gain. The FAI need to die even Conway saying yesterday in an almost incredulous manner that apparently he is considered part of the old Guard and thats why he had to resign. The best thing the FAI can do now is voluntary liquidate itself in a planned manner parallel to a new body being set up which could then by mutual consent take over the governance, promotion and administration of football in the country.

  2. #122
    Apprentice
    Joined
    Sep 2010
    Posts
    30
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    3
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1
    Thanked in
    1 Post
    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Ross is an absolute tosser but even he can work out that the ole ole ole brigade would be less likely to vote for him if he is the face of that.
    No danger of the olè brigade putting their hands in their pockets?

  3. #123
    Seasoned Pro NeverFeltBetter's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Gouldavoher
    Posts
    4,217
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    229
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    597
    Thanked in
    411 Posts
    Ha, yeah, Conway should get a GoFundMe started.
    Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).

  4. #124
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Dublin
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    91
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    398
    Thanked in
    294 Posts
    If the Dublin County Manager can spend 22 million of taxpayers money building a white water rafting center for his own hobby i don't buy the Govt cant fund football in Ireland

  5. Thanks From:


  6. #125
    Seasoned Pro NeverFeltBetter's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Gouldavoher
    Posts
    4,217
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    229
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    597
    Thanked in
    411 Posts
    But the money the FAI is looking for wouldn't be to fund football, it would be to keep the association with its head just above water. Whatever about that whitewater rafting facility, the money being spent on it isn't a bailout of a failing (failed?) entity.

    I'd see Ireland crash out of UEFA and FIFA before I'd agree to any taxpayer money being used to prop up the catastrophe that Delaney, Conway and co created.
    Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).

  7. Thanks From:


  8. #126
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Dublin
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    91
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    398
    Thanked in
    294 Posts
    The politicians keep talking about the FAI as if the old board and CEO are still there.
    There is a new board and soon a new CEO.
    Do we keep flagellating them for the sins of the people that came before them or do we accept where we are now and move towards funding football properly in this country (lets say to the same extent as greyhound racing maybe ??).
    I do agree however that the admin and coaching elements of the FAI are grossly overstaffed.
    Most of the coaches paid for by the FAI are simply doing the same jobs as the coaches at the junior clubs and in many cases less well.
    The FAI with a proper CEO who wasn't interested in building an empire but on developing the game needs a far smaller staff.
    A condition of taxpayer money going in would be to have a fit for purpose organisation.
    The FA in England have 825 staff per 2018 accounts of which 97 are stadium and event management and 250 are running a hotel. https://www.statista.com/statistics/...ly-average-uk/

    Given the FAI dont have a hotel and only own 42.5% of the aviva a fair comparison would be 500 staff in the UK doing the job compared to 200 here.
    A country with ten times the population and probably a 100 times the money.

    I appreciate there is a sepearte premier league body and overall comparisons are complicated but do we really think that 200 people in the FAI is a reasonable number compared to 500 ish in the FA in England.
    Sometimes bald stats are true ...like the one about John Delaney being the best paid CEO in Europe was defended by many on the bais of what a great job he was doing.
    Last edited by sbgawa; 02/01/2020 at 10:39 AM.

  9. #127
    Biased against YOUR club pineapple stu's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2002
    Location
    In the long grass
    Posts
    30,541
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,406
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,746
    Thanked in
    1,700 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    The politicians keep talking about the FAI as if the old board and CEO are still there.
    There is a new board and soon a new CEO.
    Do we keep flagellating them for the sins of the people that came before them or do we accept where we are now and move towards funding football properly in this country (lets say to the same extent as greyhound racing maybe ??).
    This is a good point I think. Though in fairness, I think Ross' stance has changed lately; he's been more receptive to the FAI. Conway still has to **** off of course, and that schoolboys stooge only recently left. I think the government will be more receptive again once Conway is gone.

    But if Paul Cooke is asking for E18m to bail the FAI out, it should be listened to and not treated as just another audacious FAI request. Not his fault the FAI are where they are.

  10. #128
    Reserves
    Joined
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    981
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    348
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    288
    Thanked in
    176 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    But the money the FAI is looking for wouldn't be to fund football, it would be to keep the association with its head just above water. Whatever about that whitewater rafting facility, the money being spent on it isn't a bailout of a failing (failed?) entity.

    I'd see Ireland crash out of UEFA and FIFA before I'd agree to any taxpayer money being used to prop up the catastrophe that Delaney, Conway and co created.
    Maybe Ireland not being allowed to play in a tournament is what it would take for the public to be as angry about this whole situation as they should be ? In which case - bring it on.

  11. #129
    Reserves
    Joined
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    981
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    348
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    288
    Thanked in
    176 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    This is a good point I think. Though in fairness, I think Ross' stance has changed lately; he's been more receptive to the FAI. Conway still has to **** off of course, and that schoolboys stooge only recently left. I think the government will be more receptive again once Conway is gone.

    But if Paul Cooke is asking for E18m to bail the FAI out, it should be listened to and not treated as just another audacious FAI request. Not his fault the FAI are where they are.
    Any State bailout of the FAI should come with major strings attached. This is a once in a lifetime opportunity to redesign Irish football (at all levels) to make it better fit for purpose. It should be seized firmly by the government, who should be busy doing their homework about what changes are needed in the game. Then present the FAI with a list of everything that needs to change if they want the money to stay alive. Change or die.

  12. #130
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Dublin
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    91
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    398
    Thanked in
    294 Posts
    The problem is who is to tell them what to do and what is the right thing to do anyway, people will have different views.
    I think the next CEO appointment is massive, it needs to be someone from a commercial background not some civil service flunky or board member from the Leinster association or some crap like that.

    Put a proper CEO in and tell him to sort it out , preferably from outside the country altogether.

  13. #131
    Biased against YOUR club pineapple stu's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2002
    Location
    In the long grass
    Posts
    30,541
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,406
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    2,746
    Thanked in
    1,700 Posts
    Yeah, I agree with that. Shane Ross isn't the one to tell the FAI how to run itself. He was quite happy with Delaney until the **** unavoidably hit the fan. He's smoking out the entire former board, and that's good enough for me I think.

    There's also the question as to how much the government can interfere before FIFA step in and suspend the FAI. I don't think that's something we can afford really.

  14. #132
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Aug 2016
    Location
    Dublin
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    91
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    398
    Thanked in
    294 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Yeah, I agree with that. Shane Ross isn't the one to tell the FAI how to run itself. He was quite happy with Delaney until the **** unavoidably hit the fan. He's smoking out the entire former board, and that's good enough for me I think.

    There's also the question as to how much the government can interfere before FIFA step in and suspend the FAI. I don't think that's something we can afford really.
    Yep the government cant appoint the CEO but id say UEFA are ****ed off enough at having to help out that they would allow a certain amount of "suggestions"
    Would it be too much for the Government to say that the board must elect someone with no previous official position in Irish football, i.e from the wider business community?

  15. #133
    Apprentice
    Joined
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    44
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1
    Thanked in
    1 Post
    It'll be interesting to see how many former officials get hired back in as consultants once the furore dies down.

  16. #134
    Reserves
    Joined
    Feb 2016
    Posts
    981
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    348
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    288
    Thanked in
    176 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Zenith View Post
    It'll be interesting to see how many former officials get hired back in as consultants once the furore dies down.
    I'd be surprised if it was any to be fair. None of them had any idea what was going on (allegedly). So on what basis would they have anything worthwhile to offer ?

  17. #135
    Reserves
    Joined
    Oct 2015
    Posts
    288
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    0
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    33
    Thanked in
    17 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Zenith View Post
    It'll be interesting to see how many former officials get hired back in as consultants once the furore dies down.
    less than none

  18. #136
    Apprentice
    Joined
    Jun 2011
    Posts
    44
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1
    Thanked in
    1 Post
    Really? Maybe I'm just being overly cynical then. I certainly hope so.

  19. #137
    Seasoned Pro Nesta99's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2007
    Posts
    3,866
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    923
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    753
    Thanked in
    503 Posts
    Good a place as any for this I think. Would be good to have a President with a LoI background I feel. Could be tough for Heraghty to get the backing of non LoI reps though must have been backed for the interim board. His background sounds more suitable currently, any thoughts (Sligo fans)?

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020...ai-presidency/

  20. #138
    International Prospect Martinho II's Avatar
    Joined
    Nov 2003
    Location
    Killashee Longford
    Posts
    8,186
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4,219
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    548
    Thanked in
    462 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Good a place as any for this I think. Would be good to have a President with a LoI background I feel. Could be tough for Heraghty to get the backing of non LoI reps though must have been backed for the interim board. His background sounds more suitable currently, any thoughts (Sligo fans)?

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2020...ai-presidency/
    In fairness to Heraghty I have seen him regularly at any games that Longford Town play Sligo Rovers over the last decade.
    Daire Doyles red and black army

  21. #139
    First Team Nah Nah Nah Nah's Avatar
    Joined
    Jul 2008
    Posts
    2,120
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    403
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    520
    Thanked in
    297 Posts
    Nice guy for sure but was a shock to a lot of people when he was made Chairman but reading his past work history he obviously has something about him

  22. Thanks From:


  23. #140
    Like the Fonz. Only a dog. Mr A's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2004
    Location
    In the gutter, but looking at the stars
    Posts
    11,078
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    1,581
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,103
    Thanked in
    1,422 Posts
    He presented at the LOI gathering at Abbotstown and was very impressive. Would like to see him as president.

Page 7 of 8 FirstFirst ... 5678 LastLast

Similar Threads

  1. Leaving Cert Debacle
    By Magicme in forum Current Affairs
    Replies: 44
    Last Post: 21/06/2009, 2:37 AM
  2. Windsor park debacle continues!!
    By SolitudeRed in forum Irish League
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: 18/10/2007, 5:19 PM
  3. Bohs and Waterford fined over kit debacle
    By DmanDmythDledge in forum Premier & First Divisions
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 12/10/2007, 1:23 PM
  4. unfinished stadium debacle
    By the 12 th man in forum Premier & First Divisions
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 21/02/2004, 11:07 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •