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    First Division clubs will only allow Rovers II for 2020 season, if we are to re-introduce the A championship as a 3rd tier surely we will have promotion & relegation this time around?

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    I think it's a terrible idea myself. However, I don't remember the outcry the last time. Was it because it were an 8 team division 1 or that there's bigger teams in the division now so people care. If the comments about the A league next year are true then that's a big plus

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    Not wanting a development team in senior football is minnowism now?

    That.. doesn't make any sense.
    #NeverStopNotGivingUp

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    Not wanting any players born after 2003 certainly suggested a schoolboy agenda for certain clubs. Post Brexit though can all these kids go to the UK now anymore?


    Martin Odegaard & Erling Haaland both made their league debuts in Norway at 15 but the FDA would say that you a promising youngster would need to be 17?
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    The best thing that has come from this is the talk of the reintroduction of the third tier featuring reserve teams. Presumably filled up with Mayo, Kerry, Monaghan, Carlow/Kilkenny and two or three other intermediate teams looking to step up.
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    I'm willing to bet now that it will be a regional league next year with reserve teams in both,
    St Josephs boys can spit their dummy again but they will get to do it after a long period of "constructive dialogue and engagement"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr A View Post
    Not wanting a development team in senior football is minnowism now?

    That.. doesn't make any sense.
    Their reasons behind it are minnowism. They want access to Rovers academy instead of developing their own.

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    The 2 u-19 leagues will prob become 3rd tier north/south as you cant put the travel costs of going the length of the country on these small clubs.

    Next year Limerick takes Rovers spot so FAI can save face in that Rovers B are not in the First Div next season but after that I think B sides should be allowed to get promoted from the 3rd tier to the 2nd but cannot get promoted to Premier Div

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny Kelly View Post
    Not wanting any players born after 2003 certainly suggested a schoolboy agenda for certain clubs. Post Brexit though can all these kids go to the UK now anymore?


    Martin Odegaard & Erling Haaland both made their league debuts in Norway at 15 but the FDA would say that you a promising youngster would need to be 17?
    100% schoolboy agenda , several of the first division clubs have been led by the nose by a couple of very vocal heads.
    The next battle will be the DDSL trying to get the under 13 league scrapped.
    They sent out an expression of interest docc to all schoolboy clubs around the country for the establishment of an under 13 National league to be run by the Schoolboy association.
    The dinosaurs running the Schoolboy football are the next set of suits the FAI NUA need to clean out

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    Schoolboy clubs are trying to protect their interests/cash cow of selling players to England but is that path not now doomed anyway post Brexit or will they still be able to fund themselves this way?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunny Kelly View Post
    Schoolboy clubs are trying to protect their interests/cash cow of selling players to England but is that path not now doomed anyway post Brexit or will they still be able to fund themselves this way?
    Who knows what will happen with Brexit TBH but hopefully they won't be able to travel until they are 18.
    For the vast majority it is "failure" and mental health and self esteem issues that result in going over to the UK at 15 /16.

    For the absolute elite they will still go over as whole families will be transported to the UK where the UK club thinks the player is good enough to invest this money in relocating a whole family.
    The problem is the vast bulk that are going over from the likes of Joeys cost the UK clubs virtualy nothing (the Government actually pays the €150 per week they get as part of an employment scheme) so the UK clubs take them and then weed them out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop View Post
    Their reasons behind it are minnowism. They want access to Rovers academy instead of developing their own.
    How did you come to that conclusion, out of interest?

    It's nothing to do with wanting to value your own product and trying to get attendances through the gates against a reserve team?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    How did you come to that conclusion, out of interest?

    It's nothing to do with wanting to value your own product and trying to get attendances through the gates against a reserve team?
    Cabinteelys chairman outright said it in an interview a few weeks back

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    Quote Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop View Post
    Cabinteelys chairman outright said it in an interview a few weeks back
    The Cabinteely chairman said he wanted access to Rovers academy instead of developing their own?

    This is the same Cabinteely that have probably the largest underage structure in the country?
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    You cant use away attendances as an excuse for not letting a B team into this Division, Rovers kids will prob get more away support than Athlone, Wexford, UCD, Cabo & Cobh


    Also if the Cabo chairman is complaining they are missing out on players to Rovers because of the b team, can Rovers not as easily say they are missing out players now because of Cabo & Bray in the First Division?

    I have no vested interest in this but the hypocrisy from some of the clubs is ridiculous
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    So what happens if a group of fans decide to protest against their club playing Rovers II, & stand outside before the teams arrive? Will players be willing to pass the protest line? As fans we still have this right and as 'stakeholders' the FAI nua should pay more attention to what fans and clubs want. My opinion thus far is that the FAI nua is rubbish and they are just paying lip service to real change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954 View Post
    The Cabinteely chairman said he wanted access to Rovers academy instead of developing their own?

    This is the same Cabinteely that have probably the largest underage structure in the country?
    Cabinteelys chairman said that Rovers II would impact the player pool available to first division clubs, they were almost his exact words, since rovers have made it very clear from the start they don't intend to sign external players for the team I'll let you figure out the rest

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Lads can we stop talking about arrogance and fairness.
    Rovers applied under the rules of the league in exactly the same way as anyone else could.
    The arrogance of some Rovers fans is apparent here for all to see. Look back over recent posts from RathfarnhamHoop and Placid Casual for some of the most obvious examples.

    There is also a normal dose from the club people with many management being either unwilling or unable to say they understand the objections.

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    Good to see some things never change

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrufil View Post
    So what happens if a group of fans decide to protest against their club playing Rovers II, & stand outside before the teams arrive? Will players be willing to pass the protest line? As fans we still have this right and as 'stakeholders' the FAI nua should pay more attention to what fans and clubs want. My opinion thus far is that the FAI nua is rubbish and they are just paying lip service to real change.
    Last time you lot stood outside your ground the club put boards up so ye couldn't see in 🤣

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