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    I don't see how it's a solution to chronic mismanagement really, having both things under one organisation isn't really part of the problem, so separating them won't be much of a solution.

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    Wasn't the whole point of the recent underage restructure to have everything controlled by one organisation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    I don't see how it's a solution to chronic mismanagement really
    I don't think it's meant to be? Is it not just a way for the Government to continue supporting grassroots football without putting through the grubby fingers of the FAI hierarchy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    I don't think it's meant to be? Is it not just a way for the Government to continue supporting grassroots football without putting through the grubby fingers of the FAI hierarchy?
    Surely international football subsidises the grassroots? Granted, they'll need years to pay down their debt, but this sounds like it'll impoverish the grassroots.

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    Yeah, I'm not saying it's a good or a bad idea, just pointing out what I think is Ross & co's logic behind it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    Yeah, I'm not saying it's a good or a bad idea, just pointing out what I think is Ross & co's logic behind it.
    It's the FAI's proposal though, not Ross and co.

    What it looks like to me is the FAI trying to hand off the development of football at grassroots level to somebody else, and hoping for a 300% increase in govt funding, while they hang on to the only part of the football pyramid that makes any money, none of which they have suggested would be passed on to any new body.
    Last edited by osarusan; 12/12/2019 at 8:56 PM.

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    I think the suggestion is really just about protecting 60 jobs which are probably in most danger currently. But for the reason(s) I gave earlier I'm not sure it would be as simple as some seem to think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    It's the FAI's proposal though, not Ross and co.
    Sorry yeah, I had heard Shane Ross explaining it on the news so kind of assumed it was their idea.

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    'The curious case of a naive board member and the SFAI's Aviva Stadium corporate box'

    https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...le38785641.ece

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    Time to close the while operation down and replace it with a new body. I'm all for the Federation of Football and Soccer because FFS seems so *%@!ing appropriate for these gangsters.
    Hello, hello? What's going on? What's all this shouting, we'll have no trouble here!
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    Totally different circumstances but interesting to note the CEO also giving the organisation a €100,000 loan

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/201...over-finances/

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    Gov asked for €30 million - knocked back.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/fai...ross-1.4117372

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    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    Totally different circumstances but interesting to note the CEO also giving the organisation a €100,000 loan

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/cricket/201...over-finances/
    That's just s**t stirring.

    The CEO/cricket Ireland did give out a short term loan, but he declared it to the board, Sport Ireland and was it included in their year-end accounts. Everything was above board and no hint of financial irregularities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wexfordned View Post
    That's just s**t stirring.
    No, he acknowledged "totally different circumstances". "Interesting to note" was also key.

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    FAI have now refused twice when asked to appear again before an Oireachtas committee: https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2019/1217/1099613-fai/

    Presumably they don't want to endure another public roasting.
    Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).

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    Quote Originally Posted by osarusan View Post
    New proposal to split the FAI into two organisations, one which will be state-funded to the tune of €10 million and cover grassroots football, the other which will be a private, commercially funded organisaiton to manage international/elite teams. Ross says it will be considered.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...ng-fai-in-two/
    Not sure I like the sound of this. The whole purpose of a NGB in a sport like football is to have a joined up structure. (I'm not suggesting we have that, but it's what we should work towards.)

    Everyone gives out about the senior team being cut off from the rest of the game so I don't see how this solves anything. The old cliche of it being a pryamid is there for a reason. I think everything should be part of one body, with one proper national objective but with each strand having a clear goal, and clear reporting lines.
    Last edited by Stuttgart88; 18/12/2019 at 10:34 AM.

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    Shane Ross has said the FAI sought an 18 million bailout from the government, which was refused. He also said he expects a bankrupt FAI would take the LOI with it, but don't know how true that is. The league would rumble on in some form presumably.

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    https://twitter.com/soconaill/status...65205660639232

    Don't know if this is true or not - no Euro 2020 or LoI in Europe if the FAI go bust - but it's logical. Presumably this would also mean no solidarity funding for clubs.

    Wouldn't like to be doing a club budget about now

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    FAI has to go bust. Feck it, lets re-join the IFA and their league.

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