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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Randolph
    Coleman - Egan - Duffy - Stephens
    Arter - McCarthy- Hourihane
    Robinson - McGoldrick - Connolly

    Thats probably what I would go with. Im not a huge fan of McGoldrick but he'll play. Think that team would be solid and would create chances
    Same for me but Hendrick in for Arter on my end.

    A really important thing to note about the team I'd go with is that all bar Randolph have very solid appearance records for their clubs thus far this season. I think the outfield players may well have started all their clubs' league games, with the odd exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olé Olé View Post
    Same for me but Hendrick in for Arter on my end.

    A really important thing to note about the team I'd go with is that all bar Randolph have very solid appearance records for their clubs thus far this season. I think the outfield players may well have started all their clubs' league games, with the odd exception.
    I think it was on the Hourihane Thread I was saying that I dont think Hendrick and Hourihane can play in same team, they both go missing too much so Id pick Arter to be a bit more of a presence in there. So its one or the other for me in a 3 man midfield.

    I do think you could play Hendrick on the right of a front 3, hes a good footballer but doesnt run games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Hendrick/Arter might be another that's not 100% set in stone.
    I think that might be a call between Arter/Hourihane actually, with Arter getting the nod. Hard to know exactly what SK is thinking this early in his tenure but I've a feeling Hendrick is safe for now.

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    The reason I don't think it's Arter/Hourihane is if you choose Arter from those two that presumably means you're also leaving out Brady and you are then without a set piece specialist. I think one of Brady or Hourihane always needs to start for now, so if Brady's out for Slovakia that makes Hourihane a guaranteed starter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    The reason I don't think it's Arter/Hourihane is if you choose Arter from those two that presumably means you're also leaving out Brady and you are then without a set piece specialist. I think one of Brady or Hourihane always needs to start for now, so if Brady's out for Slovakia that makes Hourihane a guaranteed starter.
    Thats way too much good logic for the internet!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    The reason I don't think it's Arter/Hourihane is if you choose Arter from those two that presumably means you're also leaving out Brady and you are then without a set piece specialist. I think one of Brady or Hourihane always needs to start for now, so if Brady's out for Slovakia that makes Hourihane a guaranteed starter.
    This is my thinking too. I think McCarthy and Hendrick are sure to start. And then I think he has to start a dead ball specialist.

    Brady didn't look to understand his role against Finland or else he was sticking too rigidly to an instruction from Kenny. Or else he was just not fit. He seemed to be playing a bit too wide on the left for the left of a midfield three. And he didn't have the energy to move horizontally not to mind vertically. He had more joy against Bulgaria when he came on because it was late in the game and Bulgaria weren't as tactically disciplined. He wasn't finding the pockets of space against Finland that he did against Bulgaria.

    Another point on the squad, we have always had enough defenders but it is some going to have three centre halves starting in the PL that are not in there- Dunne, Long and O'Shea.

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    3 thing i noticed from the Q & As with Kenny yesterday:

    1. Strained body language
    2. He mentions about players not having gametime for the previous games - yet he's selected Cod and Brady. Whats the point in selecting players if you aren't going to start them.
    3. Sounds like Coleman is still getting complimented because he's second choice. If its form Coleman has to play.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    2. He mentions about players not having gametime for the previous games - yet he's selected Cod and Brady. Whats the point in selecting players if you aren't going to start them.
    That's a strange one. Only 11 start, 11 or 12 of the squad don't!

    I'd be v disappointed if Coleman isn't picked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    He mentions about players not having gametime for the previous games - yet he's selected Cod and Brady. Whats the point in selecting players if you aren't going to start them.
    Who says he's not going to start them? He only made the point that we're in a better position now because 'most players' have played a few games, unless I missed something. Seems like O'Dowda will be available with Brady closer to 50/50.

    It was a pretty tedious press conference, the Jack Byrne stuff and in particular the same Doherty/Coleman question being asked several different ways. I can see why his body language would be a bit strained, though he never looks the most comfortable in front of a camera anyway. Who was asking those early questions? He asked about Troy Parrott too, clearly not knowing he's going to be out for several weeks. Sounded like Ken Early but maybe not.

    The most intelligent questions came from the guy around the twenty minute mark.


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    Brady cracked a rib on the 21st sept, that pretty much rules him out doesn't it? Anyone here ever cracked a rib?

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    Quote Originally Posted by paul_oshea View Post
    3 thing i noticed from the Q & As with Kenny yesterday:

    1. Strained body language
    2. He mentions about players not having gametime for the previous games - yet he's selected Cod and Brady. Whats the point in selecting players if you aren't going to start them.
    3. Sounds like Coleman is still getting complimented because he's second choice. If its form Coleman has to play.
    I had previously complemented him on not bitching about short time frames etc
    but he unfortunately he did have a little complaint yesterday about it
    He just comes across under confident

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Brady cracked a rib on the 21st sept, that pretty much rules him out doesn't it? Anyone here ever cracked a rib?
    Yeah, after reading one of Paul's posts.

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    Randolph
    Egan Duffy
    Doherty Stevens
    McCarthy
    Arter
    Hendrick
    Robinson
    McGoldrick
    Connolly

    Wouldn't be disappointed to see something like this. I'd probably have Doherty over Coleman. Could alternatively have doherty for Robinson and Coleman in as a full back with the shape shifting closer to a 4-4-2. It would be pretty lopsided though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    Yeah, after reading one of Paul's posts.
    Yeah, now that you mention it, I think Paul predicted that would happen to Robbie one day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Who do you think is better?

    Certainly in European competition, Byrne has been head and shoulders above the rest, as evidenced by the number of goals that he creates (all bar one last year for example). He took that form into his Ireland debut, where he also set up a goal. That's exactly the kind of player Ireland are crying out for, so I'd have him in the squad over Gary, Dylan, Finny and Farrugia for example, much and all as I'd love to see any of those four get a call-up.
    McEneff. I was talking more about quality of player and influence on the Rovers team, rather than arguing for someone else from Rovers to be called up.

    I wouldn't have any LOI player in the Irish squad at the minute, although if Michael Duffy was to rediscover his form (which he is showing signs of since Filippo came in) he may come into the argument down the line.

    Certainly if you were offering me a Shamrock Rovers player at Dundalk at the minute, I'd take McEneff all day long. I'm still annoyed we missed out on him. His injury last season hurt their title hopes and from what I can remember I think it was him coming on as a sub that lifted them against Brann in Europe.

    I just think Kenny bowed to pressure with Byrne. He knew full well what he's capable of before the first squad, so I doubt he's going to throw him in even as a sub v Slovakia. Probably gets a run v Finland.

    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    I had previously complemented him on not bitching about short time frames etc
    but he unfortunately he did have a little complaint yesterday about it
    He just comes across under confident
    I never thought the international job would suit Kenny because of the short time frames. He's the kind of manager that needs a lot of contact hours with players to get his message across and mould them the way he wants. That's a big worry for him I think.

    Also on another point, I saw a couple of posts here criticising O'Dowda. I think that's a bit harsh. I thought he was one of the bright spots in the two games and I think he's one you can mark down that Kenny will get the best out of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Brady cracked a rib on the 21st sept, that pretty much rules him out doesn't it? Anyone here ever cracked a rib?
    Yes i've cracked a rib. I'd be amazed if Brady is fully fit for the game. He'd have to have it strapped and tight but that doesn't do a whole lot. Time is the key
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lilywhites View Post
    McEneff. I was talking more about quality of player and influence on the Rovers team, rather than arguing for someone else from Rovers to be called up.
    Still no. Byrne is central to pretty much everything Rovers do. And has the ability to step up, as seen from his performances in Europe in particular, and also from the game last year against Bulgaria, where he definitely offered something different.

    I don't think you'll find many backing you on McEneff over Byrne to be honest.

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    Has there even been a rumour of a club buying Jack Byrne during this window ( which closes on Monday)

    Even Preston haven't looked at him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by geysir View Post
    Brady cracked a rib on the 21st sept, that pretty much rules him out doesn't it? Anyone here ever cracked a rib?
    Usually when I am eating them ! !

    Supposed to be very painful but I suppose its depends on how severe it is !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    I had previously complemented him on not bitching about short time frames etc
    but he unfortunately he did have a little complaint yesterday about it
    He just comes across under confident
    If he wins a few games we will all be saying thats his confident face ! !

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