Quoteyou reckon they would have. look at some of the other clubs who have had financial problems in this league in recent years- have they had anything like the money raised like rovers have? no.Originally Posted by GavinZac
yes, some of them have been excellent. but is that not to say that any other group of fans would have a section willing to take those steps?
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you reckon they would have. look at some of the other clubs who have had financial problems in this league in recent years- have they had anything like the money raised like rovers have? no.
Cheers for proving my point about bitterness.
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What about the fans of Cork Hibernian why did they not take those sort of steps?
thats funny - clubs like shelbourne raise many many multiples of the amount raised by the 400 club EVERY year - cos thats how much it takes to run a professional football club - EVERY YEAR - they have a ruthless approach to exploiting any and all potential revenue streams and a top calss angle on corporate fundraising- my only criticism about the rovers 400 club/supporters trust approach is that once the emergency factor dies down its going to be very hard to extract any more blood from the same ole stones - put simply they dont have the supporter base to draw on and meet the costs of running the team and club year in year out - Dunphy was right in the sense that football clubs (even in decent leagues) are bottomless pits that suck up money
they've only a hope of success if their restructuring includes a radical re-appraisal of what is really achievable from participation in the league (which aint much) - at the moment I think their ambitions are pie in the sky - but that could be just the press release facade to attract fresh investors (read patrons)
Mypost,
Derry used to have thoushands at away matches because of succes but you are missing the fact that our city had no senior football team for a long time, when this returned the city was buzzing with interest and this led to large crowds. Naturally enough over time this has wained.
Eanna,
It is only really youselves Harps and us who can rate away support with any sort of effectiveness due to the length of travel. Dublin teams should take more to matches as they rarely have to travel outside the pale. Cork, City and Harps have to travel all day Friday to make games in Dublin. TBH Rovers probably bring the most to the brandy of the dublin teams with $hels being predictably pathetic despite us having a big enough rivalry with them.
That only occured to me a minute ago - how someone with a Cork Hibs avatar could be so glib about the possible demise of Ireland's most famous club beggars belief.
KOH
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A rivalry that nobody our side knows/cares about.
Yeah but that's kids for you, dreamers with no sense of hate.
Ollie seems to care hence his paying of $hels fans on buses to ensure a large turnout a few seasons back and his famous argument with City fans.
I'd say he was a wee bit more concerned with winning the league than anything about Derry but whatever you want to believe
Based on his behaviour at games over the past 15 or so years against us we seem to get under his skin a bit more than others (turning up with the wrong jersies, assaulting fans, storming out of the directors box in the Brandywell cause he can give it but can't take it etc.).
Since its not a rivalry, you won't be too bothered when we go top on Fri night and knock you out of the cup (again) then?
Yeah but bringing 400 to a european game is easy. Bringing more than 600 to a game against Dub City last year was a hard task and one you failed. It could also be argued that Rovers' fans reputation (which although might be OTT in some circles is not without foundation) was/is a major factor in the lack of competant professionals wanting to attach themselves to the club
Of course you won't admit it (not even to yourself!) but not everyone thinks your fans are great. (As you said on you board, if even only a 100 signed up for the 5 year member ship you'd have €500K. As it is you have €250K) Put all the spin on it you like but thats surely disappointing
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It only wained because Derry weren't as successful as they were when they came into the league. The same happened to Sligo. 10 years ago, they were a good side, and even won a round in Europe. The Showgrounds was packed for all of their home games. Then they were relegated, struggled, and the attendances nosedived. They don't get anything like those mid-90's crowds there now.
The club has been established for 4 years, where hundreds of thousands of Euro has been raised and given to SRFC, and will continue to be raised after the emergency period.
Not true. We were getting crowds of 10,000 when we came into the League and regular travelling support of 3,000 odds due to the euphoria of actually having a senior football side again. Remember this was pre-Sky, pre pubs and off-licenses opening on a Sunday and there was little other competition.
When we won the League in 97 we didn't have crowds of 10,000 or anything near that and we have been in the top 3 all season this year and our crowd average is about 2,500.
Nosedived, at the limerick game we got over 2000 and thats in the first division. I'd like to see any club in Ireland attract over 2000 people to an utterly useless, depressing excuse for football. Any moderate success and we can draw out a good crowd. I know the crowds droped but for first division average crowds, we draw 3 times that amount for an average game. If we get some moderate success like 1994 we could attract up to 4000.
It's strange that Rovers can get these great crowds against the likes of Limerick and get nothing remotely like it any of the times I've seen them play at home to Harps or Galway in recent years. Kinda makes you wonder.
And those two teams would probably bring the biggest away attendances to the Showgrounds due to the proximity of Sligo for both sets of fans
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The examinership is a legal right afforded to any company, including other league clubs and Rovers are fully entitled to enter into it.
As yet the FAI have failed to give the legal basis for the punishment, but it appears that the punishment is for a mistake in the accounts, not for Rovers being in Examinership.
As the FAI were aware of this fact before the season started they are on VERY thin ice punishing Rovers for that fact especially as Bob Breen and the Licence committee flagged it but the FAI ignored him and awarded Rovers a licence anyway.
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100 people = €250k, there was 80 new monthly paying members in the space of a week and presumably the other 180 are not in a position to get a loan or 1 week was to short to be able to arrange it. 40% of existing members is a good strike rate for €2,500 of a lump sum.Yeah but bringing 400 to a european game is easy. Bringing more than 600 to a game against Dub City last year was a hard task and one you failed. It could also be argued that Rovers' fans reputation (which although might be OTT in some circles is not without foundation) was/is a major factor in the lack of competant professionals wanting to attach themselves to the club
Of course you won't admit it (not even to yourself!) but not everyone thinks your fans are great. (As you said on you board, if even only a 100 signed up for the 5 year member ship you'd have €500K. As it is you have €250K) Put all the spin on it you like but thats surely disappointing
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