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    Quote Originally Posted by MKMK View Post
    Cork were poor but should have beaten Finn Harps and that would have put a different look on the table. Its interesting to hear tha Cork are in such a strong financial position and you would wonder why their board are recommeding that the members accept an offer for the company of €1. This is the sort of money you would pay for a company with some potential but a fair amount of debt. Many the number of loan players brought in by Fenn reflects that. Fenn did a good job at Longford and got them playing football. He eventually ran out of players near the end of the season and missed the playoffs. daire Doyle could suffer the same problem this year. Lack of depth in his sqaud and injuries. Easy to kick a man when he is down but there are worse managers tha Neal Fenn.
    Theress a difference between having no existential debt and being in a strong financial position. We don't have a wealthy backer so rely on the money the football team generates. After a season with no crowds, and likely at least one more to look forward to it will be very difficult for us to compete. But we shouldn't be in danger of bankruptcy unless there is information that has not yet been shared with the membership.

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    I like everyone else in the league would like to see Cork do well but it is obvious that they were in difficulty when they had to cash in the sell on clauses and thankfully they were able to do that. The reality for all clubs is that unless you have a serious backer or get into Europe every season you are going to be left behind and the league will become like the Premier league across the water made up of different tiers who can only realistically get so far. The proposed sale would suggest that Cork are struggling and hopefully if it is sold it will lead to an injection of cash that will allow the club to prosper and also establish a striong academy to help young players in the area acheive their potential. The problems at Cork are not about the manager but are deeper than that and to be fair that would also apply to most clubs in both divisions.

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    I read the agreement to be that Cork have to consider the offer, there is no obligation to accept it. This could be a nothing offer anyway i.e. If you sell we just leave you to your own devices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKMK View Post
    . Easy to kick a man when he is down but there are worse managers tha Neal Fenn.
    He deserves a kicking whether he is down or up.

    A skillful footballer who has displayed a complete lack of integrity

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    Thats football. How many people bioth players and managers have shown great loyalty and then been shown the door when it suiots.

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    Never saw the agreement but there is a recommendation from the board to accept a one euro offer. i suppose it will become apparent at the meeting if rejecting it will present problems going forward. The league need Cork and hopefully (though it may be faint) we can get to a point where clubs are financially stable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKMK View Post
    Never saw the agreement but there is a recommendation from the board to accept a one euro offer. i suppose it will become apparent at the meeting if rejecting it will present problems going forward. The league need Cork and hopefully (though it may be faint) we can get to a point where clubs are financially stable.
    Speaking of 1e offer has ever there being a precadent for doing this in the LOI in the past? At the top of my head I cant !
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    Quote Originally Posted by MKMK View Post
    Thats football. How many people bioth players and managers have shown great loyalty and then been shown the door when it suiots.
    In this case Fenn did a great job of manipulation, being a cu*t, and going way over the top in disloyalty and treating people as fools nevermind some a general lacking in loyaty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    In this case Fenn did a great job of manipulation, being a cu*t, and going way over the top in disloyalty and treating people as fools nevermind some a general lacking in loyaty.
    I would imagine thats the end of Fenn in the loi as a manager/coach. Who would touch him after this? He may have to do a Sean Connor and go cross border!
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    As Dundalk should have heeded the warnings on Connor, everyone should also have questioned Fenn's committment to anything but himself. Busted flush as a coach also is some satisfying karma. I hope he had the decency to walk from the Cork job rather than hang on for the sack and a payoff........

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    He did a decent job at Longford with limited resources. Think there is more to the Cork situation than meets the eye. Is he the worst manegr around? Not by a long way. Expectations placed on managers by clubs and fans are often not backed up by financial support. Some people have a bee in their bonnet about how he left Dundalk and Longford. Whilst he was at both clubs he didi his job well. Ask Chris Hughton and Stephen Kenny about loyalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MKMK View Post
    He did a decent job at Longford with limited resources. Think there is more to the Cork situation than meets the eye. Is he the worst manegr around? Not by a long way. Expectations placed on managers by clubs and fans are often not backed up by financial support. Some people have a bee in their bonnet about how he left Dundalk and Longford. Whilst he was at both clubs he didi his job well. Ask Chris Hughton and Stephen Kenny about loyalty.
    Yup, absoluely! Doesnt matter if he was a prolific striker (he wasnt) when at Dundalk, his behaviour was shady and devious. Coaching career busted? Grand so!

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    I enjoyed watching Fenn at Dundalk, lovely style about him, bringing players into play, and good in 2 EL games that season (2010), then his infamous departure, and subsequent moves.

    Then I got the impression there was just that touch of laziness about him, never seemed to be that willing to move on the touchline as a manager, almost like it didn't bother him too much.

    Can't see where he will resurface next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by oriel View Post
    I enjoyed watching Fenn at Dundalk, lovely style about him, bringing players into play, and good in 2 EL games that season (2010), then his infamous departure, and subsequent moves.

    Then I got the impression there was just that touch of laziness about him, never seemed to be that willing to move on the touchline as a manager, almost like it didn't bother him too much.

    Can't see where he will resurface next?
    Not a chance he will be welcome back with ourselves.We are happy with Daire Doyle at least he shows loyalty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by joey B View Post
    Daire O'Connor leaves Cork.
    Signed for Cliftonville tonight.

    https://cliftonvillefc.net/2020/10/20/he-who-dairs/

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    Dane Massey to Rovers

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Dane Massey to Rovers
    Would be a good signing if they can get him in to have a natural fullback playing in that left wingback role. This would put Farrugia out of the team though no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract View Post
    Would be a good signing if they can get him in to have a natural fullback playing in that left wingback role. This would put Farrugia out of the team though no?
    We have Sean Kavanagh and Lafferty as well, Massey wouldn't get anywhere near the team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Dane Massey to Rovers
    You forgot Gannon, Gartland and Hoban

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    I was only starting the annual rumour about Massey
    I dont see him going to Rovers tbh, Sean Kavanagh , Lafferty . Farrugia and a super kid in the academy who has been playing left back for the second team have us well covered.
    Gannon maybe but is he going off a bit ,

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