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    Quote Originally Posted by Plib View Post
    Trafford is only 3 years younger than Kelleher. Do you think any goalkeeper is staying at a championship yo yo club long enough for those three years to matter in 10-12 years time?
    Probably not - but Kelleher is way better than Trafford and, at least at this point, better than Bazunu. Kelleher is better than several PL keepers - but clubs aren't going to fork out £25m for an upgrade if their current keeper is good enough.

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    Kelleher is going to get a massive signing on bonus somewhere if he runs his contract down. Beaten twice today, but on the first one he had no chance. Looks as good as any other goalkeeper in the Premier League, with the exception of Alisson, unfortunately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Colbert Report View Post
    Kelleher is going to get a massive signing on bonus somewhere if he runs his contract down. Beaten twice today, but on the first one he had no chance. Looks as good as any other goalkeeper in the Premier League, with the exception of Alisson, unfortunately.
    Yeah I'd see it that way , run his contract down and sign a pre contract next January somewhere in Europe. Take a massive sign on fee

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    can't see him being third choice. i can see the financial allure, but for his career, it makes no sense.

    Last season, excluding international football, he played 26 high level games: including 8 european games, 10 premier league games including games against Man City and Man Utd. A league cup final and pretty incredible FA Cup game against Man Utd. It's incredible experience.

    This season, so far, he's played 5 games already including big premier league games vs Chelsea and Arsenal - and a champions league game against Leverkusen - if he's winding down his contract and not signing a new one or willing to move, unless Mamardashvili goes on loan, then Liverpool will make him No.2, so Kelleher will probably literally play 0 games.

    Just can't see it happening. That's also a surefire way to kill interest in you, if you haven't kicked a ball in 12 months

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    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    can't see him being third choice. i can see the financial allure, but for his career, it makes no sense.

    Last season, excluding international football, he played 26 high level games: including 8 european games, 10 premier league games including games against Man City and Man Utd. A league cup final and pretty incredible FA Cup game against Man Utd. It's incredible experience.

    This season, so far, he's played 5 games already including big premier league games vs Chelsea and Arsenal - and a champions league game against Leverkusen - if he's winding down his contract and not signing a new one or willing to move, unless Mamardashvili goes on loan, then Liverpool will make him No.2, so Kelleher will probably literally play 0 games.

    Just can't see it happening. That's also a surefire way to kill interest in you, if you haven't kicked a ball in 12 months
    It won't be like that though. He will still play games in the second half of this season in rhe cardbo Cup and fa Cup hopefully and maybe more if Allison's injuries continue as well as our international games. Come the summer liverpool can't move Kelleher.on so take a loan fee for mamardashvilli and keep kelleher as backup for next season and just like this season hopefully Allison has some injuries and he plays a bit

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    It won't be like that though. He will still play games in the second half of this season in rhe cardbo Cup and fa Cup hopefully and maybe more if Allison's injuries continue as well as our international games. Come the summer liverpool can't move Kelleher.on so take a loan fee for mamardashvilli and keep kelleher as backup for next season and just like this season hopefully Allison has some injuries and he plays a bit
    Or they integrate Mamardashvili - and tell Kelleher if he wants to play at all in 2025/26 then he should accept a transfer. That's pretty much what every football club would do in that situation.

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    He'll move on this summer. The Marmardashvili signing pretty much ensures it. The only way I could see him staying is if Alisson goes to Saudi or somewhere like that. Otherwise there's no room for him at Liverpool beyond this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    He'll move on this summer. The Marmardashvili signing pretty much ensures it. The only way I could see him staying is if Alisson goes to Saudi or somewhere like that. Otherwise there's no room for him at Liverpool beyond this season.
    And that seems incredibly unlikely considering the interview that Alisson gave at the end of August.

    If Alisson or Mamardashvili get a long term injury like an ACL or the type of Achilles injury Bazunu got - that probably changes the dynamics. But short of that, I can’t see him staying beyond the summer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    He'll move on this summer. The Marmardashvili signing pretty much ensures it. The only way I could see him staying is if Alisson goes to Saudi or somewhere like that. Otherwise there's no room for him at Liverpool beyond this season.
    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    And that seems incredibly unlikely considering the interview that Alisson gave at the end of August.

    If Alisson or Mamardashvili get a long term injury like an ACL or the type of Achilles injury Bazunu got - that probably changes the dynamics. But short of that, I can’t see him staying beyond the summer
    I believe he'll move. Our green tints sometimes blurr reasonable analysis. The Bazunu case is a classic. Kelleher has gathered some deserved kudos at a high level, but he seems to consistently leave the door of doubt ajar. Against Arsenal, he must be questioned about the first goal - near post and straight at him. Also, he was all over the shop for the disallowed goal. Throw in his bizarre howler against Greece in an otherwise solid performance and the question mark looms larger.


    He's good and certainly good enough for Ireland. But good enough for Liverpool in the new, high-expectation Slot era? I don't think they'll see him offering the required level of reliability.
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    The first one was on Robertson surely - he was completely done for pace. The shot was from point blank range, I don't think that's in any way on Kelleher. He misjudged the bounce of the ball for the disallowed goal alright.

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    No blame at all for the first goal, imho. It was rifled at him. It was quite similar in a way to Weghorst's goal against Bazunu in Amsterdam. It's a misinformed cliche that keepers shouldn't be beaten at their near post. There's a kernel of truth in it but in reality a keeper has to cover a lot of the goal unless it's a super-tight angle (Almunia letting in an Eto shot in the 2006 CL final springs to mind).

    If you see it from behind the goal there's also a fair bit of space to Kelleher's right he had to cover.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuttgart88 View Post
    No blame at all for the first goal, imho. It was rifled at him. It was quite similar in a way to Weghorst's goal against Bazunu in Amsterdam. It's a misinformed cliche that keepers shouldn't be beaten at their near post. There's a kernel of truth in it but in reality a keeper has to cover a lot of the goal unless it's a super-tight angle (Almunia letting in an Eto shot in the 2006 CL final springs to mind).

    If you see it from behind the goal there's also a fair bit of space to Kelleher's right he had to cover.
    It was rifled and Saka was coming across too so the far post was available too. And the quickness with which he took the strike and power it was hit at. Impossible.

    The Arsenal free kick was hard to do something about too. It was an awesome set piece really. Can call it luck in how VVD's foot kept Merino onside but those were the margins that Arsenal were playing with for that move and they came in the right side of that margin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    He'll move on this summer. The Marmardashvili signing pretty much ensures it. The only way I could see him staying is if Alisson goes to Saudi or somewhere like that. Otherwise there's no room for him at Liverpool beyond this season.
    Then they have no cash from kelleher or from Marmardashvilli for the season. If they loan Marmardashvilli out they get a sizeable loan fee and have him develop as a first choice for another season rather than wasting his season sitting on the bench behind Allison. They still have Kelleher to support Allison for that season so they are getting some value out of Kelleher. Nobody is going to pay more than 5 million for Kelleher when he has only one year left on his deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by liamoo11 View Post
    Nobody is going to pay more than 5 million for Kelleher when he has only one year left on his deal
    They'll easily get 15m for him, an ageing Kane went to Munich for 100m despite having only a year left, United also paid over 50m for Mount who had only a year left.

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    Yeah he'll go for way more than 5 million. Would be surprised is it's any less than 8 figures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    can't see him being third choice. i can see the financial allure, but for his career, it makes no sense.
    There is no financial incentive for him - when he signed the contract the contract in 2021, getting £25K a week as a back-up made sense - but now he is a PD standard goalie and would at least double that if he was to move.

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    Great double save just there by Kelleher in the champions league vs Leverkusen. Putting himself out there on the European Market for next year too!

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    From the BBC's match-tracker.

    Liverpool 1-0 Aston Villa
    Another two big saves by Caoimhin Kelleher tonight.
    Alisson is expected to be fit after the international break.
    How does Arne Slot keep two good keepers happy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    From the BBC's match-tracker.

    Liverpool 1-0 Aston Villa
    Another two big saves by Caoimhin Kelleher tonight.
    Alisson is expected to be fit after the international break.
    How does Arne Slot keep two good keepers happy?
    Unfortunately I doubt he cares is Kelleher is happy. If Ali is fit Ali plays in Pl and champions league. Hopefully they let Kelleher have fa Cup.as well league cup. Kelleher excellent tonight

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    He can't and won't keep both of them happy. They know Kelleher is leaving so they won't worry too much about it.

    But someone is going to get an excellent keeper next season, he's pretty much the finished article now.

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