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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    So sending him out to face the best forwards in world football at international level, is no sweat to him.
    Facing savable shots from Vardy and Maddison was quite a lot of sweat to him, as it happens.
    Last edited by DeLorean; 30/12/2021 at 6:33 PM.

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    I'm not convinced we've a treasure trove of goalkeeping talent. An EPL hopeful, a L1 loanee and a Championship regular. OK, they're promising but Kelleher has yet to convince he'll ever be No.1 at Liverpool or at EPL level. I doubt it. Bazunu needs to play above L1 for better assessment. I think both careers will cross in the Championship. That's where Travers is doing the business week-in week-out with a top club. There are now less ifs and buts about him and I think he's earned a recall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapshot View Post
    I'm not convinced we've a treasure trove of goalkeeping talent. An EPL hopeful, a L1 loanee and a Championship regular. OK, they're promising but Kelleher has yet to convince he'll ever be No.1 at Liverpool or at EPL level. I doubt it. Bazunu needs to play above L1 for better assessment. I think both careers will cross in the Championship. That's where Travers is doing the business week-in week-out with a top club. There are now less ifs and buts about him and I think he's earned a recall.
    Lot of suppositions there, but with respect to Kelleher, PL clubs like Liverpool don’t have established No 2’s who they don’t think are already at PL level. He has already leapfrogged Karius and Adrian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by third policeman View Post
    Lot of suppositions there, but with respect to Kelleher, PL clubs like Liverpool don’t have established No 2’s who they don’t think are already at PL level. He has already leapfrogged Karius and Adrian.
    Suppositions? EPL bench warmer, L1 loanee and C'ship regular is just statement of fact. Provided Travers' form holds up - and especially if Bournemouth are promoted - he would have a very strong claim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean
    Facing savable shots from Vardy and Maddison was quite a lot of sweat to him, as it happens.
    The Maddison shot was not savable. He did save two penalties that night, whereas his opposite number, with all his experience and reputation, didn't lay a glove on any of the ones he faced.

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    Some suggestions Alisson might be among Liverpool players who have tested positive for COVID. If game goes ahead vs Chelsea, could be a big opportunity/test for Kelleher.
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    Sods law they'll get a postponement now... He doesn't have the best of luck when it comes to first-team chances

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    Quote Originally Posted by pineapple stu View Post
    Sods law they'll get a postponement now... He doesn't have the best of luck when it comes to first-team chances
    He'd have much more luck if he went somewhere he'd be guaranteed games!

    For those that are defending him staying there to be number 2. At what age should he move it he continues to be a number 2? With Allison being only 29 should Kelleher stay until he's 25/28/30 ?

    At 23 he should be playing regularly now if he's as good as some make him out to be

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    One point to make is kelleher will be set for life financial a long time before Gavin
    Because is number 2 at arguably the best team in the world

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    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    The Maddison shot was not savable. He did save two penalties that night, whereas his opposite number, with all his experience and reputation, didn't lay a glove on any of the ones he faced.
    …and only a couple of days later saved a pen from Salah who hadn’t missed in ages. Also saved a pen from Kane in Euros semi final. How often does Kane miss pens?

    The teenage Irish keeper playing in a rubbish league saved a pen - during an actual match against a tier 1 international team, rather than a shoot out - from one of the world’s best ever players and a wholly reliable penalty taker.

    So which is it? Saving pens is a sign of quality or it isn’t? Or does it depend?

    Pretty obvious you’re not discussing this topic in good faith tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    One point to make is kelleher will be set for life financial a long time before Gavin
    Because is number 2 at arguably the best team in the world
    A footballer and his money are easily parted, sadly

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    Well there you are, discussion over. Diggs has nailed it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diggs246 View Post
    One point to make is kelleher will be set for life financial a long time before Gavin
    Because is number 2 at arguably the best team in the world
    Funny how the "arguable best team in the world" are currently only 3rd best team in their own country

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    Funny how the "arguable best team in the world" are currently only 3rd best team in their own country
    A point behind with a game in hand. Essentially 2nd in the league… ahead of the European champions and behind the champions of England

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    It's easy to play spot the Liverpool fans on this website

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeLorean View Post
    Facing savable shots from Vardy and Maddison was quite a lot of sweat to him, as it happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by mypost View Post
    The Maddison shot was not savable. He did save two penalties that night, whereas his opposite number, with all his experience and reputation, didn't lay a glove on any of the ones he faced.
    Of course it was. Straight at him from distance - and it goes in over his head. Shouldn't happen.
    Last edited by Snapshot; 01/01/2022 at 1:39 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elatedscum View Post
    A point behind with a game in hand. Essentially 2nd in the league… ahead of the European champions and behind the champions of England
    Who cares???? Honestly? I couldn’t care less if Liverpool are the best or third best team in the world.
    The main thing is if the kid is getting enough games.
    I think it’s harsh to judge him on the goals conceded against Leicester.
    Most keepers would’ve struggled to keep them out.
    He’s a great talent and hopefully we see more of him for Liverpool.

    Bazunu is a great talent too but has had a few brain farts for Ireland too. Yes he saved a peno V Ronaldo but Ronaldo wouldn’t have had the peno if it wasn’t for Bazunu’s mistake

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    Quote Originally Posted by Snapshot View Post
    Suppositions? EPL bench warmer, L1 loanee and C'ship regular is just statement of fact. Provided Travers' form holds up - and especially if Bournemouth are promoted - he would have a very strong claim.
    The suppositions were your fanciful predictions on future career prospects which were not statements of fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Razors left peg View Post
    He'd have much more luck if he went somewhere he'd be guaranteed games!

    For those that are defending him staying there to be number 2. At what age should he move it he continues to be a number 2? With Allison being only 29 should Kelleher stay until he's 25/28/30 ?

    At 23 he should be playing regularly now if he's as good as some make him out to be
    Interesting point and I guess Kelleher will have to make that call within the next two years. He’s going to struggle to displace Allison, but Bazunu also has a challenge ahead. Will City promote him to number 2 in which case he’ll be bench warming, or does he go out on loan again or seek a move? Ideally we’d like to see them both playing regularly at PL level, but there’s no obvious immediate route for ether of them at present. At the risk of antagonising the Bazunu lobby and showing my LFC bias, I’d say Kelleher has the better prospects of getting a move to a lower PL or Championship side on the basis of his current status at Liverpool. Bazunu is a great prospect, but is still developing and is prone to the odd error. Including Travers, I’d say all three are better keepers now than Randolph ever was, so whatever happens next, it’s not an area of weakness in the current squad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by third policeman View Post
    The suppositions were your fanciful predictions on future career prospects which were not statements of fact.
    Not supposition - opinion. Your comeback comments are reasonable - if mean spirited to Randolph who, despite an underwhelming club career, was rarely less than solid for Ireland over 50 caps.
    Last edited by Snapshot; 01/01/2022 at 1:28 PM.

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