The 'Honest Logic Box’ seeks reasoning to try to pluck apart – quelle surprise!
If the proposed changes to UEFA competitions goes ahead in the way that they have been flagged, it is likely to lead to additional Group Stages opportunities for Dundalk and other League of Ireland clubs across all 3 competitions - Champions League (CL), Europa League (EL) European Conference League (ECL)
While CL group stages may not be any more accessible because of the standard of opposition and the recent extra QFR, the introduction of ECL would see other group stage places rise from 48 places to 64 places between EL and ECL (32 each)
A defeat in CL QFR1 (like to Celje) would mean a dropdown to ECL and 3 rounds to make ECL Group stages, aided by a CL Champions Path and separate EL dropdown draw stream – the same number of rounds, but probably more winnable ties than EL previously
But crucially a defeat in EL QRR2 onwards (like against Sheiff) wih give the added safety net of ECL group stage route if eliminated at EL.
The 33% increases in EL & ECL group places when compared wih EL alone - these extra 16 places are very accessable LoI CL qualifying teams
Tangent, holes - you can be unintentional good craic a times, if you did't take yourself so seriously
I wish Nial Corbet well as he plays out his football in he backwaters of Clonaslee GAA, but your oblique, dare I say tangential reference to Fintan Cassidy (presumably intended as some sort of dig at me) reminded me about the foolishness of he comment about Corbet being a better keeper than Gary Rogers ( I know you subsequently backtracked to say "potential" - that made it all the more amusing)
Last edited by Ezeikial; 21/09/2020 at 1:03 AM. Reason: dodgy spelling, weak logic. Inserting 'Honest'
It will lead to fewer group stage opportunities for the LoI at CL level.
It will lead to fewer group stage opportunities for the LoI at EL level, as I've shown.
It will lead to group stage opportunities for the LoI at ECL level - but that's not what we were talking about, it it? The point was very clearly about the EL group stages.
That’s what I have posted about. You stick with your own narrow agenda if you wish.
If it all happens, Without a doubt it will provide more group stage opportunities for League if Ireland clubs. I don’t think clubs will be too bothered about which logo is on the match ticket if the clubs are making money from it and building new euro experiences
In simple terms if you win the league you have a better chance of Group stages than ever before.
If you don't at best you have similar chance and probably for less money.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
[QUOTE=Ezeikial;2049375]First part is clear. Second part about less money less so. It may be that LOI clubs have the capacity to go further in ECL even if money per round is less than EL. Time will tell)
Ezeikial for the uneducated like me whats diff between ECL and EL if you dont mind. I havent much time to think about future European competions .Just focusing on family and trying to get a job again so havent time to take in properly with COVID.
Gary Cronin is he the right man to manage Longford Town?
[QUOTE=Martinho II;2049383]These wikipedia articles may help, although changes will take place to Europa League when / if Europa Conference League is introduced
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_E...ference_League
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Europa_League
Nigel - who you were replying to - has got in before me to point out that it wasn't what you were posting about. The comment made was "Dundalk will probably never get a better chance again to qualify for the Europa League group stage" (my emphasis), to which you replied "Never get a better chance again? Do you know something the rest of us don't about the future of this competition?" (again my emphasis)
So Nigel was correct.
But sure lookit, as you seem to be one of these who changes what point they're making during a discussion, I'll just leave you with it.
Back on topic btw, one other snippet is that Waterford are getting close to knowing whether they'll be in the UEFA Youth League this year - the draw is in two weeks' time. They need four clubs to qualify both for the CL proper and the Youth League - Man City and Atalanta are two. That said, entrants are all a little bit up in the air yet, and it's not easy to see who the other two might be (Celta Vigo, Köln and Angers are the Spanish, German and French underage champions for example) So probably not looking great for them to be honest, which would be a shame as Irish clubs have always acquitted themselves very well in it to date.
It always amuses me how much UCD and Harps fans get worked up in discussions about Europe and league titles.
Good point well argued, as to be expected with a The Lilywhites post.
Ezekial making up his own competition in his narrow little head is he?
I'm a bloke,I'm an ocker
And I really love your knockers,I'm a labourer by day,
I **** up all me pay,Watching footy on TV,
Just feed me more VB,Just pour my beer,And get my smokes, And go away
If I'm responding to a post, I tend to stick to the point. Yours may have been slightly off topic, given that the entire discussion surrounded your questioning of my initial statement, that I quoted again for you.
Go on then, humour me.
Where have I posted such things other than suggesting it's a great opportunity for Dundalk?
Last edited by nigel-harps1954; 21/09/2020 at 9:38 PM.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
Paul, if you are ignorant about the Europa Conference League, perhaps a UK themed article might be easier to digest for you. Is a "narrow little head" intended as a strange personal insult - does it speak more about you?
https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/spor...eague-18936794
Interesting to note that AC Milan played Bolonga last night and triumphed by 2‐0 both scored by Zlatan. So, once again no shame, Rovers!
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