Impressed by Church of Ireland

**Gerrit** · 13/05/2005, 11:30 PM

Originally Posted by kerr's tribe

Gerrit, where the hell did you hear that?

That's rotten!

what do you mean with 'rotten' ?

Sounds almost like you are stating anal sex is wrong... IMO people do whatever floats their boat in their sexual life, as long as both agree. Don't forget anal sex is a rather normal form when you know some people do SM, bondage, watersports... Now that's where I think is crossed a line of good taste, but that's just for myself - as long as both agree no one has the right to tell a couple what to do or what not to do.

And it is true, research did show many couples that follow the exact papal words do have very frequent anal intercourse as technically you are still a virgin when penetration does not go via the vagina. Thus in the exact meaning, anal sex does not stop you from reaching your wedding night as a virgin...
IMO it's a very double standard and I find it a bit weird that people would actually believe this themselves ; I guess it's more like "we want to have sex, but as we're technically not allowed from our religion, let's search a way around that problem and do anything but regular coitus"

It's one of the unlogical things really... In Islam you have many of those tricks to surround certain religious laws. Guess people want to stay true to their faith but sometimes just cannot ban themselves from pleasures and needs. Which is only human.

**Green Tribe** · 14/05/2005, 12:36 AM

errrr...I am going to be a chicken and not say too much cos I don't want this thread getting out of hand

It's just my personal opinion, it makes me cringe, I don't see the need for it, but as you say, people are free as consenting adults to do what they want.

Ok, I await the backlash, I'm hiding in the corner

**lopez** · 14/05/2005, 12:50 PM

Originally Posted by kerr's tribe

errrr...I am going to be a chicken and not say too much cos I don't want this thread getting out of hand

It's just my personal opinion, it makes me cringe, I don't see the need for it, but as you say, people are free as consenting adults to do what they want.

Ok, I await the backlash, I'm hiding in the corner

Can't say it does much for me either, but then I'm a bloke. Seriously, it is a double standard in the religious sense, as Gerrit says, although one that is the result of the pressure cooker of abstaining from sex before marriage, but it is also a dangerous double standard. Gay bloke I work with has told me the current and potential 'medical problems' associated with his sexuality and it doesn't make for family reading.

**Green Tribe** · 14/05/2005, 1:55 PM

Originally Posted by lopez

Can't say it does much for me either, but then I'm a bloke. Seriously, it is a double standard in the religious sense, as Gerrit says, although one that is the result of the pressure cooker of abstaining from sex before marriage, but it is also a dangerous double standard. Gay bloke I work with has told me the current and potential 'medical problems' associated with his sexuality and it doesn't make for family reading.

I don't want to even imagine!

That's a relief, thought I was going to get a boll*cking there, suppose I'll have to wait until Gerrit comes on and then I'll get a lecture...

**paul_oshea** · 14/05/2005, 1:59 PM

lopez im not being funny, but what are the implications? i wasnt aware of any unless bowel problems or something. or the muscle wears away?

i remember someone telling me that some guys had to put certain things meant for women up there in order to stop certain things coming out without being controlled.

**Green Tribe** · 14/05/2005, 2:09 PM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

lopez im not being funny, but what are the implications? i wasnt aware of any unless bowel problems or something. or the muscle wears away?

i remember someone telling me that some guys had to put certain things meant for women up there in order to stop certain things coming out without being controlled.

(KT is vomiting out the window)

**Green Tribe** · 14/05/2005, 2:11 PM

I would imagine the muscle would be a problem, as it is not er..'designed' to expand ...that much

Any experts here care to explain??!!

**paul_oshea** · 14/05/2005, 4:33 PM

Any experts here care to explain??!!

you mean anyone honest enough here to explain!!

**Green Tribe** · 14/05/2005, 5:10 PM

yeah!

**Gerrit** · 14/05/2005, 7:28 PM

Em, why would you get a lecture ? I will make a confession here: getting something in there is not really my ideal fantasy as well, on the contrary. Maybe as being the shipper with a female receiver it's different (as in: not that different from "regular"), but I wouldn't propose it to my future partner so I don't think anal intercourse is something you'll see me practising very soon as well. So no lecture for you, KT.

This said, you never know of course. My experience is that making statements as "I will never do this/that" is quite dangerous and often you get the boomerang right back in the face... Who knows I get awake tomorrow after a night out, not knowing anymore what happened, with a girl next to me who complains about problems sitting down

Luckily it's very unlikely to happen as I am a non-alcohol consumer !
But my point is: never say never. I once said my dad in a not that far away past I would not want a relationship, and despite me being still single I do have a (very very limited) record of chased girls since I left to Ireland

So I am not wild about making statements such as 'never this' or 'never that', though I must say I do about parental issues.

!

**Gerrit** · 14/05/2005, 7:29 PM

But, as someone did ask about the medical side of anal intercourse... I don't know to be honest. Heard different stories and don't know what to believe because I have no experience with sodomy. As per one source it would damage the muscles and the insides, as per another source it would be very healthy because getting elements from a strange body inside the body would be good for the immunity system. I tend to believe the first source more though, but I guess if there is anyone having plans in that direction a doctors practice is the best place to ask.

Never heard about men using tampons or sanitary towels

Would be highly disgusting in this context and I don't think the medical risk goes that far. If it does, Always and Tampax should design a special product for males, it could be good profits for them

My ex-boss and a few friends of mine are homosexual. But I don't feel like asking them about that, so please don't ask me to forward such questions to them.

I also know two girls who have tried anal sex as receivers (obviously) and who were actually quite enthousiast about it and enjoyed it. One other tried as well and was less enthousiast, she never tried again. So I guess it's really a very personal thing, as is every sexual act really, and thus I feel not right in saying what is right or wrong. I mean, a girl posting on a messageboards I checked had a boyfriend whose ultimate fantasy is her urinating on his hands... I would label it as "

" but if that really floats his boat and she agrees with it, I guess it's not up to me to say they are being perverts...

So guess I will post this message now... I read it over to make sure nothing could be misinterpretated as I don't want to be labelled as a perv... Just answering the question asked and TBH I don't know much about the issue...

Is it legal BTW in Ireland ? In Singapore there's a sentence of 10 years jail for it, even if the girl/man receiving agreed with it !

**paul_oshea** · 15/05/2005, 1:45 AM

its known as the manpon gerrit!!!

yes its true the muscles expand too much that you cant control them. its the same for people who take steroids etc, they cant control all the muscles in their body.

I read it over to make sure nothing could be misinterpretated as I don't want to be labelled as a perv...

too late mate. too late.

**lopez** · 15/05/2005, 10:00 AM

Originally Posted by paul_oshea

lopez im not being funny, but what are the implications? i wasnt aware of any unless bowel problems or something. or the muscle wears away?

i remember someone telling me that some guys had to put certain things meant for women up there in order to stop certain things coming out without being controlled.

Those things are true but are more commonly associated with the extreme end of the anal sex 'scene' and as far as I know doesn't effect this bloke. Infection and warts or hamorrhoids were more common and what he admitted was a far higher risk of colon cancer (HIV, AIDS, Hepatitis etc. didn't come in to it).

**anto eile** · 15/05/2005, 6:42 PM

churches are all the same. tell people what to do. complain about problems in society and do nothin about it themselves..
cant beleive people still listen to religious figures in this day and age

"fascists dress in black and go around telling people what to do, whereas priests...." priests/ministers/imams etc all the same.bull$hitters

**�anna** · 15/05/2005, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by anto eile

churches are all the same. tell people what to do. complain about problems in society and do nothin about it themselves..
cant beleive people still listen to religious figures in this day and age

"fascists dress in black and go around telling people what to do, whereas priests...." priests/ministers/imams etc all the same.bull$hitters

Well said that man

**Green Tribe** · 15/05/2005, 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by �anna

Well said that man

I thought you wanted to be a priest Eanna!

**�anna** · 15/05/2005, 11:26 PM

Originally Posted by kerr's tribe

I thought you wanted to be a priest Eanna!

Dougal: God, I've heard about those cults Ted. People dressing up in black and saying Our Lord's going to come back and save us all.

Ted: No, Dougal, that's us. That's Catholicism.

Dougal: Oh right.

**paul_oshea** · 15/05/2005, 11:30 PM

the tayto one was class, when he says dougal i often wonder how you got into the priesthood, was it collect 10 packs of tayto and send them off!!LOL

or the one remember when the deputy prime minister of france came knocking on the door ted?

dougal that wasnt the deputy prime minister of france, that was a bumb

**Gerrit** · 17/05/2005, 3:12 PM

Originally Posted by lopez

Those things are true but are more commonly associated with the extreme end of the anal sex 'scene' and as far as I know doesn't effect this bloke. Infection and warts or hamorrhoids were more common and what he admitted was a far higher risk of colon cancer (HIV, AIDS, Hepatitis etc. didn't come in to it).

Anal sex scene ?! Does that exist ?? Do they have clubhouses like other scenes ?

Anto Eile, I understand your views (atheist as well), but I'd advise to express them with more care. Otherwise it may insult perfectly nice people who have a faith, and especially I would not tell this to Muslims as given the recent political problems and twists this could be very sensitive topic...