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    Quote Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie
    So you could say in a manner of speaking my years of delusion watching out for Leeds results( never stepped inside Elland Road) eventually led me to the true faith that is the EL.
    I will never be a Premiershi* heretic again
    I think that's going to be the case for anyone following Leeds.
    A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes for his friends.

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    TUT TUT Hitman, by the way College check out the Championship,much better than the Premiership
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    [QUOTE=razor
    4tothefloor, do you think your brother finally settling on Utd may have been in direct opposition to you following Pool? Cos thats what happened in our house.[/QUOTE]

    that happened in my gaff, I got a Manchester united 1988/1989 annual, christmas 1988, (still have it, makes for some great reading) when i was a mere seven years old, My brother who is two years my senior got the liverpool one, ever since i've followed Manchester United, and hes followed Liverpool !

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    Quote Originally Posted by OwlsFan
    That's life. Most Man U supporters are either glory hunters or bow to the peer pressure as kids in the class to follow them.
    That's a very sweeping statement. You could say the same about most Liverpool supporters in the 70's and 80's when I started supporting United. There was a lot of peer pressure to support Pool back then.
    There wasn't much glory to be had for United supporters back then.

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    There wasn't much glory to be had for United supporters back then.[/QUOTE]


    And there won't be much more for a long time to come either

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saints4Ever
    There wasn't much glory to be had for United supporters back then.

    And there won't be much more for a long time to come either [/QUOTE]

    9 days ain't too long

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    There was a time not so long ago when Manu considered the fa cup not good enough to even enter the competition,now it's the last resort for a bit of silverware
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dublin12
    There was a time not so long ago when Manu considered the fa cup not good enough to even enter the competition,now it's the last resort for a bit of silverware
    And how much have the feeder club won in the last few years?
    If you attack me with stupidity, I'll be forced to defend myself with sarcasm.

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    Im not too familiar with Royal Antwerp myself,perhaps you could let me know
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    Quote Originally Posted by razor
    4tothefloor, do you think your brother finally settling on Utd may have been in direct opposition to you following Pool? Cos thats what happened in our house.
    It was one of the reasons, he was a Liverpool fan for ages, had a couple of jerseys with Ronnie Whelans number 5 on the back, but the main reason was he was just a glory hunter basically.

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    I just find the notion of someone "picking" a team utterly ridiculous, if they have no connection to that team. You pick a team because they're from your area, because you know a player, because your dad/mam was a fan, because it was the first team you ever saw in the flesh- not because they won something on the telly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    I just find the notion of someone "picking" a team utterly ridiculous, if they have no connection to that team. You pick a team because they're from your area, because you know a player, because your dad/mam was a fan, because it was the first team you ever saw in the flesh- not because they won something on the telly.
    do u want to explain madrid so

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    Well I followed Liverpool because they had Ronnie Whelan, Lawernson, Beglin, and then Aldridge, Houghton, Staunton at the time. Whelan was, and still is, my favourite Liverpool and Irish player of all time. The football they played was class. I also started going to Ireland games around the same time, so seeing them in the flesh was a big thrill. Basically I followed Liverpool because of the Irish connection at the time. Since I started going to Liverpool, I've gotton to know the city and I love it. Great place, great people, even the Evertonians!

    Of course in Irish football, you follow the team where you are born. However, following Limerick in the EL is not enough to feed my football appetite i'm afraid, and never has been. After 19 years of being a Liverpool supporter, there's no looking back now. What I don't understand is people who follow the EL preaching against supporting foreign clubs. It's basically just them being pi$$ed off with the state of Irish domestic football, a state caused by the morons who ran it when it was flying years ago, but invested nothing in return. It's Irish football's own fault that it is where it is today, not football fan's supporting foreign clubs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    do u want to explain madrid so
    gladly It was the first jersey I ever got (aged 6). First team I ever saw in the flesh- I was there when I was 10 and I went to see them training and got some autographs after the training session. That plus, my folks lived there for 2 years before i was born and I've been going back there on holidays since I was 2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Éanna
    gladly It was the first jersey I ever got (aged 6). First team I ever saw in the flesh- I was there when I was 10 and I went to see them training and got some autographs after the training session. That plus, my folks lived there for 2 years before i was born and I've been going back there on holidays since I was 2.
    is eanna a spanish name then

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    Quote Originally Posted by thecorner
    is eanna a spanish name then
    yeah, kinda like brooklyn no, its a galway name actually

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
    Well I followed Liverpool because they had Ronnie Whelan, Lawernson, Beglin, and then Aldridge, Houghton, Staunton at the time. Whelan was, and still is, my favourite Liverpool and Irish player of all time. The football they played was class. I also started going to Ireland games around the same time, so seeing them in the flesh was a big thrill. Basically I followed Liverpool because of the Irish connection at the time. Since I started going to Liverpool, I've gotton to know the city and I love it. Great place, great people, even the Evertonians!

    Of course in Irish football, you follow the team where you are born. However, following Limerick in the EL is not enough to feed my football appetite i'm afraid, and never has been. After 19 years of being a Liverpool supporter, there's no looking back now. What I don't understand is people who follow the EL preaching against supporting foreign clubs. It's basically just them being pi$$ed off with the state of Irish domestic football, a state caused by the morons who ran it when it was flying years ago, but invested nothing in return. It's Irish football's own fault that it is where it is today, not football fan's supporting foreign clubs.
    I don't agree with the "always support the local team" thing. Support the team you like most, for any reason, no matter if they're 1 km or 10000 km away. Preference for a club is the same as what music, women, art, movies, etc you like: it's an emotional thing that cannot always be rationally explained.

    I support Ostend in Belgium ever since I seriously started to follow football (that was 12 years ago now) while I was born 70 km away from Ostend and never lived near the town until the 11th year of supporting the club when I actually lived in the city for a short while.
    In national teams football, I am and remain a Norway fan. The Belgian national team doesn't move me, I don't care if they lose or not and will only watch them when there's nothing else to do. I support Norway as well when they are playing Belgium and went to the stadium even to cheer Norway against the Belgians. My favourite player Rushfeldt scored the equaliser so it was a tiptop evening for me

    Support whatever team you like best. Just supporting a team because they're closest to your place is not a good reason IMO. Don't forget that it's not your city playing, it's just 11 players representing a sports club that happens to be based in your city. It's not because a club is named Liverpool FC that it is like the honour of Liverpool City is at stake ; the 11 players on the pitch may as well not even be from the town itself (I just pick LFC as an example, don't know if they have a Liverpudlian in the squad or not)

    Same with national teams. Some of my friends back in my native country say I am 'wrong' because I don't support Belgium. They even say "at least I am a real Belgian". Nice one 11 players having the Belgian citizenship does not mean that the team is Belgium ; it's just a team using the banner Belgium, but in the end it's just a team, you could just as well put 11 other players there and use the same name for the team...
    The Norwegian squad contains some of my favourite players in the world. Why would I not support them while I have absolutely no emotional bond with the 11 players that are usually playing under the name Belgium ?? They all play for clubs that don't move me at all. I don't support against Belgium, I support against 11 players that THINK they are Belgium.

    I see national teams the same as clubs: you pick the one you like most to support, for whatever reason. If it happens to be the country you live in, that's fine. If it's a country at the other end of the world, also fine. After all, you just support a team of 11 players you like, it's not like you actually support the country. Supporting the squad Brian Kerr selects does not mean you support Ireland as a state, you support just 11 players that represent a sports federations with office in Dublin.

    And you don't need a valid reason to support a club/national team. Just the fact that for some reason you emotionally feel affection for the club is reason enough. There should not always be searched after a logical explanation for feelings of affection or disaffection. Same with love: feelings know no ratio, they just happen for some reason you can't explain. If it were as easy as "I like men/girls who look exactly like that and act exactly like that" it were very easy to find a perfect match, unfortunately (??) it doesn't work like that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerrit
    Some of my friends back in my native country say I am 'wrong' because I don't support Belgium. 11 players having the Belgian citizenship does not mean that the team is Belgium; it's just a team using the banner Belgium, I have absolutely no emotional bond with the 11 players that are usually playing under the name Belgium?? Supporting the squad Brian Kerr selects does not mean you support Ireland as a state, you support just 11 players that represent a sports federations with office in Dublin.
    Choices in club football are different than International football. There should be no grey area when supporting national teams. You don't have a choice with International teams. If you're Irish, you support Ireland, if you're Brazilian, you support Brazil, and if you're Belgian, then you support Belgium. You should always, ALWAYS, support the country from where you are from. If we all followed your logic, we'd all support Brazil, or Germany, or France, because they all have good players. But we Irish support Ireland, because it's where we are from, and it is, good or bad, part of who we are. The rules are such that all of the squads in every International football team, must have some connection with the country, however small. It means a lot more than merely "representing a sports office in Dublin". The players also represent the people of the Republic of Ireland, in International football.
    Last edited by mypost; 14/05/2005 at 5:04 AM.

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    Well said Mypost about the international team.
    If you have the passport and the citizenship that is the country you have as your#1. Now you can have anyone you like as #2 and you can also root for another country especially if you're lot fail to make the EURO Championships or the World Cup as the Republic of Ireland habitually failed to do until the arrival of Jack Charlton in 1986!

    Some of the other countries I root for when we are not in the competition are
    The Italians and Yugoslavia (a.k.a Serbia-Montenegro the Brazilians of Europe)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
    Well I followed Liverpool because they had Ronnie Whelan, Lawernson, Beglin, and then Aldridge, Houghton, Staunton at the time. Whelan was, and still is, my favourite Liverpool and Irish player of all time. The football they played was class. I also started going to Ireland games around the same time, so seeing them in the flesh was a big thrill. Basically I followed Liverpool because of the Irish connection at the time. Since I started going to Liverpool, I've gotton to know the city and I love it. Great place, great people, even the Evertonians!

    Of course in Irish football, you follow the team where you are born. However, following Limerick in the EL is not enough to feed my football appetite i'm afraid, and never has been. After 19 years of being a Liverpool supporter, there's no looking back now. What I don't understand is people who follow the EL preaching against supporting foreign clubs. It's basically just them being pi$$ed off with the state of Irish domestic football, a state caused by the morons who ran it when it was flying years ago, but invested nothing in return. It's Irish football's own fault that it is where it is today, not football fan's supporting foreign clubs.
    4thtothefloor

    If Limerick played Liverpool who would you be up for?
    If your answer is Liverpool kindly burn your passport please!

    I would be up for Limerick always in that scenario and I am not a Limerick FC supporter . Why?
    Two reasons. 1/Limerick are the Irish team and 2/ are also The underdogs.

    I have always liked the David in a David V Goliath situation. Hence my choice of club.

    I have a friend who follows Shamrock Rovers and ManUre.
    In fairness to him he was delighted when Rovers beat Man Utd in that famous friendly back in 1986. Mind you so was every genuine EL supporter back then to be fair.

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