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    Setanta Cup Final

    The final of the SC is now guaranteed to be an Irish League side against an EL team, after Linfield won tonight.
    Good for the competition, IMO. Even better if it is CCFC.
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    Linfield vs. City at Tolka...............Mmmmmmmm, nice!

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    We still have to stuff Ports on Monday though .... 2 nil and away we go !!

    Do have what it takes ??

    Can you sing for 90 minutes ??

    If so then you are needed at a Turners Cross near you !!

    Be there ..... or ..... look, no arguments ... just be there !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    We still have to stuff Ports on Monday though .... 2 nil and away we go !!
    no team has won by 2 or more goals yet in the setanta cup

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    Monday will be a huge game for the team.

    We'll be expected to win by the 2 goals but Portadown are no mugs so we'll have to earn it.

    If we don't all the doubters (and Shels fans)will be able to say City can't do it when the chips are down.

    The club really needs some silverware this season to progress and we have a great opportunity to get to a final.
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    In a lot of ways, this match is like a final, it should have a huge crowd and great atmosphere.

    no team has won by 2 or more goals yet in the setanta cu
    Didnt Longford loose thier first match to Glentoran 3-1? I might be wrong. Hopefully the ports players will still be hung over from thier Cup win anyway
    As I say, we're just young & a bit nieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troy.McClure
    I might be wrong.
    And you are.
    "I don’t want to tempt fate, but Thierry Henry is not having one of his best nights." - RTE co-commentator Jim Beglin, minutes before TH struck the stunning winner.

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    Glens beat us 2-1 in the Oval.Having played the 2 best sides from the North IMO they would alright down here.Both side were good attacking sides but they just couldn't defend to save their lives.I think City will beat Ports by 2 goals and go on to win the competition but Linfield or Glentoran should not be underestimated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseguy
    Glens beat us 2-1 in the Oval.Having played the 2 best sides from the North IMO they would alright down here.Both side were good attacking sides but they just couldn't defend to save their lives.I think City will beat Ports by 2 goals and go on to win the competition but Linfield or Glentoran should not be underestimated.
    I'm not trying to be overcritical here, but Longford were rubbish last night.
    Digger seemed to be the main creative and attacking option at times!
    To see Matthews on the sideline continually telling the team to hoof it up the field was shocking......

    I reckon which ever eL team gets to the final will win it. Linfield weren't bad,but I don't think they are up to City or $hels standard.

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    I think City should beat Ports by 2 goals or more. There will be a massive crowd to cheer on City and Ports have nothing to play for only pride. Keep our fingers crossed anyway. We have Waterford to deal with first on Friday. COME ON CITY!

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    If Shels doesn't reach the final, I'll be in Tolka cheering Linfield. Not to **** off Cork people, I already stated before here that I like Linfield and that they were my best ersatz to a Shels victory... That post dated from long before it was known LFC would reach the final.

    And it's not nice to have only one final leg in the ROI. To avoid political turns, why no second leg in Belfast ??

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    Some scenarios & stats from the eL office:

    Scenarios:

    If Cork City beat Portadown by two goals or more they will win the group.

    A one-goal winning margin, provided it's by a scoreline of 4-3 or better, will also see them through to the final. This is due to Shelbourne's currently superior goal difference (plus one to Cork City's zero), goals scored total (five to Cork City's two) and better fair play record (11 disciplinary points to Cork City's 12 - eight yellow, one red for Shelbourne; nine yellow, one red Cork)

    Under tournament regulations, where teams finish level on points for first place, the following criteria are employed in sequence to decide the winner:

    * Greater goal difference
    * Most goals scored
    * Direct match results
    * Best fair play record (1 point for each yellow card and 3 for each red card received by players)
    * Drawing of lots

    Therefore, for example, a 3-2 win for Cork City would see them finish level on points, goal difference and goals scored with Shelbourne. As their head-to-head results are identical (one 1-0 home win each), the fair play record would decide the group winners - with Shelbourne taking top spot as their fair play record obviously can't be bettered by Cork.

    Similarly, if Cork City draw with or lose to Portadown or only win either 1-0 or 2-1, then Shelbourne will win the group outright

    -o-

    Statistics/Interesting facts

    Goals per game:
    Group One: 3.0 (12 goals in four games); Group Two: 2.2 (11 goals in five games); Tournament: 2.55 (23 goals in nine games)

    Wins/Draws
    Of the nine games played, there have been seven wins and two draws (four wins in Group One; three wins and two draws in group Two). Of the six 'north v south' matches, southern clubs have won three, drawn two and lost one.

    Away Wins
    Shelbourne's win over Portadown in Shamrock Park is the only one to date.

    Winning Margins
    There has yet to be a winning margin of more than one goal in any match.

    Man of the Match Awards
    Shelbourne's Wesley Hoolahan became the first player from an away team to receive the Setanta Sports Man of the Match award (v Portadown).

    Leading Scorers
    Seventeen players in total have scored so far. Fourteen have one goal each, there has been one own goal and Richie Baker, Jason Byrne (both Shelbourne) Michael Halliday (Glentoran), Gary Hamilton (Portadown) and Stephen Paisley (Longford Town) are the joint leading scorers with two each.

    Penalties
    One (unconverted) penalty has been awarded (for Linfield v Glentoran)

    Goal Times
    Over two-thrids (16) of the 23 goals scored have come in the second half of matches, compared with seven in the first-half. Of those second-half goals, seven have come in the first 15 minutes after the break and six in the last 15 minutes (including five in the last 10 minutes). Three goals have been scored in the first and last 15 minutes of the first half and between 61 and 75 minutes of the second half respectively. Just one goal has been scored between 16 and 30 minutes of the first half of any match to date.

    Interestingly, 11 of the 16 second-half goals have been scored by northern clubs while five of the seven first-half goals have been scored by southern teams. The only goal for a southern club scored in the last 15 minutes of any match is Stephen Paisley's last-minute winner for Longford Town v Glentoran. Northern clubs have scored 13 goals in total; southern clubs nine goals.

    Yellow/Red Cards
    A total of 31 yellow cards have been issued (3.44 per game) while there have been four sendings-off (0.5 per game).

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    And what about the goal that never was .... surely that deserves a mention !!
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    Quote Originally Posted by A face
    And what about the goal that never was .... surely that deserves a mention !!
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    Lads
    I don't want to tempt fate, but can anyone confirm the final date?
    I've seen May 21st (English FA cup day)
    or May 25th (Champs league final day)
    Surely any of these dates would affect the viewing figures for the above TV games.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky
    I don't want to tempt fate, but can anyone confirm the final date?

    Saturday, May 21 2005
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    Thanks Peadar.
    Couldn't find it on the Setanta site!
    I'd still prefer if it was on in the afternoon though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky
    I'd still prefer if it was on in the afternoon though.
    No point clashing with the English FA Cup.
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    Like we did for the last FAI cup final V Shels I seem to remember.
    Wouldn't bother me, but I can see how Setanta may be concerned.
    (329 viewers instead 651)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ricky
    Like we did for the last FAI cup final V Shels I seem to remember.
    From memory, the drawn game was on the same day as the English FA Cup and the replay was on the same day as the Scottish FA Cup but both of our games had evening kick off times and therefore didn't clash.
    Arsenal won the English FA Cup and Celtic won the cup in Scotland so we were better off not clashing with those teams.
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