Troy Parrott F AZ Alkmaar b.2002

**pineapple stu** · 26/08/2023, 8:36 AM

Ah this reducing minutes into full 90 minute games to boost stats doesn't work. With five subs, most attackers don't last the game now. You'd have to do that for everyone to make a fair comparison, and then you end up at square one again

**seanfhear** · 26/08/2023, 8:51 AM

If Parrott shows that he is too good for this level he will get a move to a better level ~ That's how football works.

**JR89** · 26/08/2023, 8:52 AM

Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Ah this reducing minutes into full 90 minute games to boost stats doesn't work. With five subs, most attackers don't last the game now. You'd have to do that for everyone to make a fair comparison, and then you end up at square one again

No one is stopping you from doing it and do think it's a fair thing to do when looking at players contributions. Breaks it down a little more

Will Keane being a good example when people go on about he's done nothing in his four games to show he should get more caps but bar one start his other three caps are 1, 9, and 14mins long. He's played 87mins in an Ireland shirt.

**pineapple stu** · 26/08/2023, 9:25 AM

With Keane you're showing he's a statistical anomaly though.

Parrott isn't. He has a typical mix of starts, sub appearances, and being taken off as sub, so in his case (and most cases, because most cases aren't statistical anomalies by definition) you're just padding the stats.

**Jd2793** · 26/08/2023, 9:52 AM

no you arent lol. doing things at a per 90 basis is basic stuff when looking at player stats.

**pineapple stu** · 26/08/2023, 10:45 AM

Then do it for everyone, as I said. The stats John83 posted stood for themselves without massaging one player's stats.

And of course there's his club form, which is more relevant as there's far more games there, against a more consistent level of opposition. And that's pretty poor, as we know.

**tetsujin1979** · 26/08/2023, 6:22 PM

Named as a sub in his first game

**Trequartista20** · 26/08/2023, 6:53 PM

I'm actually quite surprised at some of the negativity surrounding this loan. What did people realistically expect?

I think this is a good move. Apparently there was top-flight interest from Germany, Spain and from other Eredivisie clubs. Hopefully Excelsior offer the best chance of regular game time.

Playing in the (arguably lesser) Belgian league did Cullen no harm.

**SkStu** · 26/08/2023, 7:00 PM

I don't mind it at all either. And I dont see it as make or break - he's 21. A good spell there and his confidence will go up which I think is one of the issues with him. I quite like what he brings to the teams he plays for in terms of linking play and I still have hopes for him to be a solid option for us in the coming years.

**pineapple stu** · 26/08/2023, 7:13 PM

I think it's an ok move too (given how last season went), though I wonder what would people say if he'd moved to, say, Dundee? Same idea - moving to a side in a league ranked around 6-10 in Europe, where a couple of clubs dominate (and drive that Euro rank) while the rest aren't remotely that strength, and he's joined a recently promoted side.

OK, the Dutch league is stronger than the SPL, but Excelsior were 15th last year while the SPL only has 12 teams, so bit of swings and roundabouts there.

But lookit, he'll play some good players and should get another solid season of football under his belt. A worry would be that Excelsior tend to ship a few hammerings (lost by three goals or more 11 times last season) and he probably wouldn't get much of a sniff in those games. And he wouldn't want to be going back there this time next year, I think it's fair to say.

If there was top-flight interest from Spain and Germany too, then he's ended up at a club lower than anything those leagues could have offered. Not sure if they were just rumours or what happened there.

**Trequartista20** · 26/08/2023, 8:04 PM

Don't agree with every word, but as usual, an interesting and considered take, PS.

**CraftyToePoke** · 26/08/2023, 8:45 PM

He's on. 87th minute, game at 2-2. Fifth sub.

**pineapple stu** · 19/09/2023, 12:56 PM

Another 20 minutes at the weekend in a 0-0 draw against Almere City. Was an unused sub the week before the international break.

Let's hope he's still getting up to match fitness for now...