Troy Parrott F AZ Alkmaar b.2002

**Razors left peg** · 02/06/2024, 5:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ol� Ol�

Not to dampen excitement because what he's doing is brilliant but NAC Breda are a second tier side presently and so were Den Haag.

Still, though, he's in a side that have played themselves into having to compete in this play off and he's had a good record even before the play offs.

He's doing himself a whole pile of good. Interesting summer ahead.

Yeah but it's not just on today's game. This is 2 hattricks for them in playoffs on top of a pretty good goal record for a bad team in league all season... stepping up when he's needed most is something!

**Razors left peg** · 02/06/2024, 5:44 PM

Originally Posted by John83

Yeah, Spurs is a very high bar, and I think he'd be better off going elsewhere for now even if this piqued their interest. He's done enough to generate a really good opportunity for himself.

It'll be an interesting summer for him, I'd rather he moved on from Spurs personally but I'm just wondering if they'll be interested to see how he goes in preseason before making decision on him

**pineapple stu** · 02/06/2024, 5:58 PM

4-1 in the end, so they do go down.

Not that that's really relevant for Troy. The links with a better team in the same division (AZ, Twente) sound interesting. But there's surely a lot more positivity than this time last year. I like the way he finds those tap-ins a lot; sign of a good striker. We could do with one of those!

**tetsujin1979** · 02/06/2024, 5:58 PM

**Razors left peg** · 02/06/2024, 6:05 PM

Who's had the better loan, Parrott or Idah? Given the goals against Rangers I'd prob lean Idah, but Parrott has had a good overall season

**pineapple stu** · 02/06/2024, 6:11 PM

Parrott was scoring goals for a small fish. I'd value that over scoring goals for a big fish/little pool team.

Though they've both had good loans

**Eirambler** · 02/06/2024, 6:21 PM

Both excellent to be fair to them. Probably notable though that both loans came about after mediocre stints in the English Championship with Norwich and Preston. Arguably they both dropped to League 1-ish level (in terms of much of the opposition they were playing) with the result that they both were able to score more.

So, although he's had a lower profile season, I would argue that Tom Cannon remains ahead of both of them right now. He went for around �8m and I don't know that either Parrott or Idah would fetch that just now. If either or both are sold by their parent clubs this summer it will likely be for less than that. I could see Celtic paying around �5m or so for Idah. Not sure anyone will pay that just yet for Parrott.

Exciting to have the three of them all 23 or under coming through like this together. And Sinclair Armstrong too. Not too mention a 19 year old fella at Brighton that's meant to be quite highly regarded...

**Ol� Ol�** · 02/06/2024, 6:32 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

Not too mention a 19 year old fella at Brighton that's meant to be quite highly regarded...

Mark O'Mahony?

**Razors left peg** · 02/06/2024, 7:12 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

Both excellent to be fair to them. Probably notable though that both loans came about after mediocre stints in the English Championship with Norwich and Preston. Arguably they both dropped to League 1-ish level (in terms of much of the opposition they were playing) with the result that they both were able to score more.

So, although he's had a lower profile season, I would argue that Tom Cannon remains ahead of both of them right now. He went for around �8m and I don't know that either Parrott or Idah would fetch that just now. If either or both are sold by their parent clubs this summer it will likely be for less than that. I could see Celtic paying around �5m or so for Idah. Not sure anyone will pay that just yet for Parrott.

Exciting to have the three of them all 23 or under coming through like this together. And Sinclair Armstrong too. Not too mention a 19 year old fella at Brighton that's meant to be quite highly regarded...

Idah had 7 goals for Norwich this season before his move, Cannon only had 3 all season... so I don't buy that Cannon is ahead of him

**Eirambler** · 02/06/2024, 7:24 PM

Cannon's season was heavily disrupted though. On the only metric you can truly compare them - Championship form - Cannon's minutes per goal rate was better last season than Idah's despite his injuries, and of course was miles ahead of him the season before that when Cannon was fully fit.

**Razors left peg** · 02/06/2024, 7:45 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

Cannon's season was heavily disrupted though. On the only metric you can truly compare them - Championship form - Cannon's minutes per goal rate was better last season than Idah's despite his injuries, and of course was miles ahead of him the season before that when Cannon was fully fit.

And Idah has shown he can score goals in the Premiership before he got a season ending injury. I just think you're logic is flawed... but the good news is that the 3 of them look like good players and hopefully they all continue to improve

**Eirambler** · 02/06/2024, 8:00 PM

Assuming you mean the English Premiership he has actually only shown he can score goal.

**pineapple stu** · 02/06/2024, 8:00 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

And Idah has shown he can score goals in the Premiership

Not plural he hasn't

Hadn't realised Cannon's minutes per goal ratio was almost the exact same this season as last. Though of course you'd have been hoping for him to kick on given how well he finished his first season.

I assume Parrott is confirmed as missing Tuesday's game?

**elatedscum** · 02/06/2024, 8:08 PM

It�s a good group:

2000 Obafemi (Connolly)
2001 Idah
2002 Parrott, Cannon
2003 Armstrong (Emakhu)
2004 Ferguson (Pearce)
2005 O�Mahony, Fraser
2006: Okosun
2007: Melia
2008: Noonan

**Razors left peg** · 02/06/2024, 8:11 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

Assuming you mean the English Premiership he has actually only shown he can score goal.

It's one more goal than Cannon ever got at that level

I'm not to start sh1tting on Cannon because he's a player I like, I just disagree with you that he's ahead of Idah right now

**yurt** · 02/06/2024, 8:53 PM

Parrott has timed his run of goals perfectly and it should mean he'll be playing at higher level next season. The only thing for sure the pair of hattricks tells us is that he's definitely too good for the Dutch second tier, so we've established his floor. Would love to see him stay in the Netherlands, especially if he could get into a side who are playing in Europe.

Interesting summer ahead for both him and Idah who've both done their reputation no harm in the last 6 months.

**Eirambler** · 02/06/2024, 9:42 PM

Originally Posted by Razors left peg

It's one more goal than Cannon ever got at that level

I'm not to start sh1tting on Cannon because he's a player I like, I just disagree with you that he's ahead of Idah right now

Fair enough, we can agree to disagree. I suppose to phrase my argument another way, Idah has shown he can score consistently in the SPL. Parrott has shown that he can do it in League 1 and the Eredivisie. But neither of them have shown they can do it in the Championship, where the average opponent would be consistently stronger than any of those leagues, other than the top couple of teams in each. Cannon is the only one of the three (four if you include Armstrong) that has shown he can score consistently in the Championship. I will give Idah some extra marks for scoring a couple against the Rangers, who are a Championship standard team, but as he has never done it consistently in the Championship and Cannon has, personally I'd still have Cannon ahead of Idah at this point.

**JR89** · 02/06/2024, 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Eirambler

Fair enough, we can agree to disagree. I suppose to phrase my argument another way, Idah has shown he can score consistently in the SPL. Parrott has shown that he can do it in League 1 and the Eredivisie. But neither of them have shown they can do it in the Championship, where the average opponent would be consistently stronger than any of those leagues, other than the top couple of teams in each. Cannon is the only one of the three (four if you include Armstrong) that has shown he can score consistently in the Championship. I will give Idah some extra marks for scoring a couple against the Rangers, who are a Championship standard team, but as he has never done it consistently in the Championship and Cannon has, personally I'd still have Cannon ahead of Idah at this point.

Tom Cannon had a goal every 209.75 mins last season. Idah had a goal every 212.5mins this season for Norwich and fans were talking about selling him.

At the end of his first season in the championship when he was the same age as Cannon he had a goal every 108.3 mins. Think Cannon needs to improve that number before we can say that he's the only one that has scored consistently in the championship.

**JR89** · 02/06/2024, 10:11 PM

If it was because all of his goals that season start to finish happened in 11 games apologies. Would still wait to say he's done it more consistently. One swallow doesn't make a summer.

**JR89** · 02/06/2024, 10:14 PM

Also I hate puns, but a little disappointed that nobody made a Parrott pun. To score the goals he's scored in this playoff and still get relegated I'd be massively sickened....... I'd be as sick as a parrot.