Last edited by tetsujin1979; 23/09/2024 at 1:54 PM.
Ah in fairness tets, let's not start talking up unbeaten seasons in the Scottish Third Tier as if it makes them an impressive team. Conor Sammon scored twice against them in the last game of last season for example.
For Idah, it's two goals at a time they were needed (which is good) against a side who'd certainly be English fourth tier at best; maybe even non-league (which is worth pointing out).
And if it helps him develop a goalscoring habit, then I'm fine with him scoring against sides like Falkirk when the chips are down.
We have a lovely habit of trying to justify every decent performance. We all know that football throws up strange cup results and lower division teams can beat better ones. That's a relatively good lower division Scottish team who Celtic were in a difficult spot against until Idah got the goals. He has a nice habit of getting some timely important goals since he went there last season. It ok to enjoy and not have the constant navel gazing of trying to assess just how much it matters cos of the standard of the opposition.
Its really not that complicated!!!
I think it's perfectly reasonable to note the opposition. It's a fairly big factor like.
The point here isn't Falkirk lads, they're weak by comparison and he'd need to be scoring against them. The point is how absolutely low & lousy it was to pop up here today with that contribution while ignoring the lads goal in the CL in midweek.
My comment was Falkirk related. I agree it's better to score against Falkirk than not score against Falkirk.
And fair play to Adam for CL goal, despite playing just 14 minutes.
But, again, while scoring against Slovan Bratislava is infinitely better than not scoring against Slovan Bratislava, it was hardly seismic given Slovan are 45 places behind Celtic in EUFA's ten-year club rankings and Slovakia is seven adrift of Scotland in the associations list.
Sadly, despite Falkirk's burgeoning status as the raging bull of SPFL, they fail to get a ranking. Now that's low and lousy.
Anois teacht an Earraigh / Beidh an lá dúl chun shíneadh,
Is tar eis na féil Bríde / Ardóigh mé mo sheol.
I think the two goals were more impressive when looked at in the context of the situation Celtic were in than in terms of the opposition. A team that's winning away from home against much stronger opposition are going to pack the defence and be hard to break down. He managed it twice in two minutes to turn the game around. The second goal in particular was impressive. I would actually rank those higher than the Champions League goal given that the CL game was already won when he scored.
As always the impressive thing about scoring goals for Celtic isn't the standard of opposition you're scoring against (usually weak), it's being able to take the pressure and responsibility of being in a team and in front of a crowd where you're expected to score, and being able to deliver the expectations.
FWIW, this blogger reckons Falkirk gave Celtic their toughest game this season
https://anordinarybhoy.wordpress.com...-the-big-guns/
Do you reckon it being largely Celtic's second string had anything to do with that? They made eight changes for the game.
Seriously, let's not talk Falkirk up beyond their station. As I said, Idah has matched what Conor Sammon did in May.
Eirambler has it right when he references (as I did in my original post) the situation Celtic were in at the time. Of course, Idah had been on the pitch the previous hour as well - flicking through the Celtic forum, one of their takeaways is maybe their strength in depth isn't great, and Idah could easily have been one of the four players to come off on the hour mark as he hadn't played well to that point. Then it's a different story of course. Of course he did stay on, and he did score twice - such are the vagaries of football. General impressions are it was Kuhn who really turned things around (two goals and two assists after coming on).
And the other thing to take is that Auston Trusty made his first start, and again if the comments about the game showing up Celtic's lack of strength in depth are correct (and there's an awful lot of whiny Celtic fans), then I'd take it Scales' place in the starting XI isn't under immediate threat either, which is no harm.
Only one Irish player appears to have played for them: Patrick Cregg, apart from the DUP's Sammy Wilson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...k_F.C._players
Forget about the performance or entertainment. It's only the result that matters.
There were 3 ex arsenal lads there at the same time: Anto Stokes, Patrick Cregg and Stephen O'Donnell. Might have been others too but those I can remember off the top of my head... <update: Graham Barrett was also there>
Stephen Bradley, also ex-Arsenal was also there a season later. So at least 5 ex-Arsenal Irish lads
Last edited by elatedscum; 23/09/2024 at 6:21 PM.
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