We can give it a silly dismissal as Idah is literally just back from his holidays. He's a couple of weeks behind the rest of the Norwich squad as he was away on international duty with us.
So he was poor because he played about an hour of football about a month ago? Even though others in the squad did so too, and some travelled much farther in doing so (like Nunez going to Chile and Bolivia)?
Gotcha.
It's preseason........Originally Posted by pineapple stu
He was "poor" because he's just back from his holidays. He was included in the Bristol training camp, and part of the training camp prior to Greece/ Gibraltar so yeah - a hour of football a month ago. Imagine going to the effort of multi quoting the Norwich forum to have a go.
It's pre-season for everyone.
Unfortunately it seems we'll go to any lengths to deflect away from things that reflect badly on our players (even when those things don't impact others in the squad for some reason)
It's not deflecting, it's not caring that a lad who was on a beach last week has a bit of rustiness in a training match.
Man United are playing games in Vegas and San Diego in the coming days. I'm a United fan, both games easily accessible for me, I'm not going to either. Why? Because the games don't fcuking matter. Its a fitness exercise and I've never in 44 years of my life given a single sh1te about how a players form was in preseason.
If you think preseason doesn't matter or has no bearing towards the beginning of the season, then(not to be rude) but you literally haven't got a clue what you're talking about. Preseason is very important in the modern game. Especially, if you're trying to hit the ground running, as a striker, at the start of the season for a club you haven't been scoring for and your fellow club mates are banging in goals in preseason(i.e Idah). Once the season starts, it's very difficult for coaches to push players physically as the turnaround of games is far too quick for recovery etc; Preseason would be extremely important for Idah given his record of injuries also. Games, minutes, strategy are planned out meticulously so they are in prime condition come the start of the season. But yeah, managers and coaches are just putting top athletes through a preseason for the craic and it has no importance because a fan doesn't want to go and watch the games.
And I would have thought everyone would have taken the pre-season nature as read in the context of the game.
But this nonsense of posting silly stuff about 5-a-side or making up excuses for him does get a bit tiresome, especially in light of your self-professed over-optimism on players.
Preseason is for fitness, clubs often tend to play a lot of youngsters in preseason games because they are irrelevant. Troy Parrott was good in preseason for Spurs a couple seasons ago, it had zero relevance to him getting anywhere near the 1st team. Last season Killian Phillips played a lot of preseason for Crystal Palace, I think there was one big game in particular in Asia against Liverpool (or some other big team) in front of about 70,000 fans, irrelevant when it came to the real stuff. Anyone banging on any player for rustiness in 1st preseason game needs to cop on a bit.
I get there isnt a lot going on at the moment and we are all looking forward to the leagues starting back up but
The 5 a side probably has more importance than a training game against a non league team
A bit of an extreme interpretation of what he said, no?
Regardless of physical sharpness I think it was apoor miss. Surely the way to convert that chance was hard at the near post, away from the 'keepers centre of gravity. Aim at/near the post, let it curl inside it. I think it betrayed a lack of a clinical striker's instinct imho.
As for Duffy, I'd like to have seen Krul's full role in it before fully blaming him, though of course it looked terrible. Did Krul start his run late? Did he shout? I always think a firm header back over 10-15 metres is less risky than a gentle, guided header back over only 5 or 6 metres. I'm not convinced Krul read the whole situation well.
Yeah, there's almost certainly the proverbial pair of them in that one alright, though Krul being off camera puts the optics all on Duffy. There doesn't seem the need to put that deliberate loop on the header back though?
Probably not but if Krul had been on his line before a late run out, it wouldn't have been a mad thing to do.
There was a similar incident in the Dundalk v Rovers game on Friday. Pohls came charging out and Hoare put a header past him and had to rush back to clear his own header off the line. Looked to be completely Pohls' fault to me.
Winning goal six minutes into injury time after coming on in the 86th minute for this busted flush of a forward.
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Good start to a season that, while probably not make or break for him, is going to be important in his development. At least he's got this and his first international goal to build on
I agree on the make or break point. He's still young enough at 22 to crack double digits as a centre forward not for another 2-3 years. My bigger issue would be not cracking double digits due to injury, of which he has had a few, and the long term impact.
Staying fit for the season now would be progress in my view.
Starts tonight at QPR in the League Cup.
Springett, Omobamidele and Duffy start as well.
Last edited by Trequartista20; 16/08/2023 at 6:15 PM.
4 Irish lads in the Norwich team tonight. Idah, Springett, Omobamidele and Duffy. Sinclair Armstrong not on bench for QPR so they obviously see him as starter in league games now.
Big night for Idah I think, needs to play very well to force his way in there.
Its really not that complicated!!!
Got 70 minutes and was up against it as QPR sat deep, but did well. He might need to be patient this season as Barnes and Sargent have looked very effective when playing.
Tony Springett limped off during the game, which is not nice for him as he was on the verge of breaking in.
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On after 14 minutes for Josh Sergeant, who had already scored. 3-0 to Norwich now, with Idah assisting the third. May get more game time in the coming weeks depending on the nature of Sergeant's injury
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