Yeah four Block E lads, three from the supporters club committee and three from a family. The club would've put them down as officials for the night.
https://kesslereffect.bandcamp.com/album/kepler - New music. It's not that bad.
That's bad form from bohs alright. Imagine someone watching on tv idea coming up with some idiotic conspiracy theory, demanding answers from Bohs ans refusing to accept any explanations. What is the world coming to. In future maybe clubs should submit a list of all individuals they have allowed into the ground and the reason they are there to be shown before or after the tv credits at the end of the program. Hopefully that would stop conspiracy nuts like yourself and their idiotic theories.
Not that Bohs should have to explain themselves to anyone, but for the other conspiracy nutters the people in high vis jackets were RTE staff, a handful of family members of two members who passed, a few club volunteers acting as stewards and also dundalk officials.
Maybe in future Bohs should ask opposition teams/officals and also any RTE staff in attendance to wear clear markings on their high vis jackets to identify themselves so as not to confuse the tv viewers who care about and/or count things like that.
Lesson learned for 2021 if crowd limitations are still in place
Bohs and every other club should absolutely have to explain why everyone is at a game! If people in attendance can be justified then ok, but even then if numbers pose a risk things need to be scaled back. It's not unreasonable to have people easily identified either - the simple reason for this is that currently perception is everything. If the public get the impression that lockdown regulations are being stretched at elite levels of sport, among other things, then the wider efforts drop off. The perception here is that there seemed to be a lot more 'stewards' dotted around the ground than would be needed for a bcd match. Specific to Friday night it was said 'if' rules are being bent or broken then there should be consequences whatever that might be. By all means defend a club but question should be asked also if things look out of order.
Nigel While it's no consolation, I agree, Burkes peno was a dive and he should have been booked, I hate to see ****ers do this, only peno for me in the game was second one, hand ball fair enough, I agree I think yiz were robbed, no good now, but at least I'll acknowledge that the best team lost
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If the relevant authorities request info then yes there is a list of attendees for them. However anonymous posters posting random idiotic thoughts on crowd counting based on random images on their tv does not fall under this heading, so they get the less official response. The internet/twitter is full of conspiracy nuts who question everything and frankly their perception of events can be different to everyone else and indeed reality in most cases
The LOI have done a great job with Covid 19 restrictions compared to the GAA or some other sports, even the league celebrations for Rovers / Drogs/ Longford were kept Sane.
A few extra stewards and a few lads outside a fence isnt a big deal one way or another shouldn't distract from the phenomenal work done by the clubs.
Some absolutely woeful penalties in that shootout!
Some hilarious penalties from Derry there ,well done Sligo!!
Irish by birth ,Harps by the grace of god.
Jesus thats the worst peno shootout since Rovers v Sligo one in the cup final in 2010
The penalties were on a par with the rest of the game. We’ll be trounced on Sunday.
But basically it's either Athlone or Sligo in Europe next season, so Sligo probably feeling pretty confident there?
If or what is that I have said above that you find objectionable? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts! Do you think it is important for people to be concerned about the adherence to covid-19 restrictions? Is it important for the LoI community to be seen as leading the way for how things should be done. Do you think that perception is relevant? An over reaction, errors, misperception are not going to be dealt with by defensiveness or shouting accusations about conspiracy theory. Rivalries have a time and place and this definately isnt the time, equally if rival supporters falsely accuse anyone of a breach of regulations for the pure mischief. I dont know if Bohs were having training sessions in breach of lockdown 1, if training was happening at that time, not only would it show a complete disregard for the welfare of players and family but of the winder community and also for the League of Ireland for obvious reasons.
Nobody here has suggested that anonymous posters should get details on who was at the game and why but there is nothing idiotic about flagging a concern that arrangements at a game looked risky. I dont know how you can call a live broadcast 'random images'. Can we use that defence if something is caught on camera or cctv...bunch of random images, what ever you see and think as a result is idiotic. If RTE filmed fans rioting, (or 50 odd kids drinking with no social distancing) its not appropriate to have an opinion, discuss the issue, be concerned, ask questions, even worry about what footage is showing. I havent suggested that Bohs are culpable on anything,, I have said that to me the Jodi Stand was too busy for comfort under L5 conditions, I also said that it is the way to go to get people back at games (just not at L5). There was a comment on 100 stewards in the Jodi Stand, above that was challanged by using these random images to make a reasonable estimate at closer to 40 people in Hi-Viz bibs - no claim on who they were or what they were doing. I will say that if you really believe that there have not been people accomodated and let in to games across the league inappropriately then you dont know LoI, or you are naive. Be careful what you wish for as scrutiny of those lists of people might turn up a few questions - isnt the Garda Superintendent a GAA man who isnt particularly helpful to Bohs in normal times?
Compared to other sports especially GAA, LoI has been miles ahead and should be lauded for that. Those few extra stewards and lads outside a fence could change that quickly if cluster develop. Its was yerself sbgawa that expressed concern over the livlihoods of people due to restrictions yet you are endorsing slack behaviour that can and has resulted in restrictions that have had to be ramped up because people did the 'no big deal' stuff. It only takes a few weak links, 5-10 people, one c19+ and in a couple of weeks that could be 40 people on the basis of a family of 4 not including extended contacts. How about the risk of cross infecting areas where players also pass through -all the hard work undone. I for one really wish that this was taken a whole lot more seriously and for purely selfish reasons, I dont want to be put at risk at any time, but really id like to have a beer at Christmas with my pals. I want the league to resume with crowds in the spring. What is going to happen (we have seen the effect of L5 lockdown stalling and cases have stopped falling), Govt are going to go against NPHET preferences again and not extend the current Lockdown to mid December. Case numbers will mushroom in the lead up to Christmas but possibly not at a rate we cant manage as a health service. By New Year we will be back in lockdown but the numbers will eclipse both other peaks that kicked us in to lockdown. This time sport will be suspended or delayed and schools will close though presented as extended holidays. Everyone is sick of this sh!t, if you pardon the pun, and it could be avoided but not with the very Irish attitude of 'sure it's grand', 'sure what harm' bull**** or no big deal - it is a big deal. And Ned vigilance is not criticism, even if it turns out to be a non issue. I can asssure you if it was Dundalk FC at Oriel with similar observations by others or myself I would be saying the exact same!!! People need to double down not stamp their feet in a tantrum because of criticism of their club IF rules were stretched.
Anyway yeah was there football on tonight??.....apologies for the rant to all including those quoted but 2020 has been ****e and there are week of it yet to run
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