Post stolen from Shels message board

**Wiseguy** · 06/05/2005, 9:21 AM

What a quality post.Absolutely spot on on all points.All those who can should ensure that it appears in each clubs fanzine and that it makes a regular apperance in each clubs program.People should also try and have it appear in local media if at all possible.

**Gareth** · 06/05/2005, 9:41 AM

Best way to curtail the madness of money in soccer is to only allow players be paid a percentage of the total earnings from the club. I believe putting a cap on wages will not stand up in European court, is that true? Problem is money will spiral out of control, clubs fold, but in reality, we will always have local clubs etc etc. The money madness needs to stop. I dislike what Roman has done to Chelsea, as in not operating it as a business but as a plaything. I'm not sure if that level of investment into a club gives me a sense of achievement??? How do ye feel about it?

**Gareth** · 06/05/2005, 9:43 AM

Of course Mick Nevilles Hair needs to give permission first I imagine???

**monutdfc** · 06/05/2005, 10:04 AM

Brilliant post my arse. What's the fun in racing up the motorway, missing the start, losing 5 flaming nil to your biggest rivals, driving back to Dublin in a foul temper for work in the morning. Face facts, it's ****e and we're mad. Give me an away trip with the Boys in Green anyday.

**monutdfc** · 06/05/2005, 10:09 AM

ps Gareth, can you get Mick Neville's Hair's permission for the post to be reproduced?

**rebs23** · 06/05/2005, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Gareth

Best way to curtail the madness of money in soccer is to only allow players be paid a percentage of the total earnings from the club. I believe putting a cap on wages will not stand up in European court, is that true? Problem is money will spiral out of control, clubs fold, but in reality, we will always have local clubs etc etc. The money madness needs to stop. I dislike what Roman has done to Chelsea, as in not operating it as a business but as a plaything. I'm not sure if that level of investment into a club gives me a sense of achievement??? How do ye feel about it?

Putting a cap is contrary to Competition Law and EU directives

**Gareth** · 06/05/2005, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by monutdfc

ps Gareth, can you get Mick Neville's Hair's permission for the post to be reproduced?

If you go to the Shelbourne FC Chatboard
http://shelbournefcchat.100megs12.com/chat/index.php
and PM Mick Neville's Hair then he can reply individually to requests to get it put in various places? Best way to do it I think???

**A face** · 06/05/2005, 11:42 AM

Definitely POTM !!

**sonofstan** · 06/05/2005, 12:45 PM

Great post - remember late february arriving just before half time at our friendly with Athlone after 3 hours driving and getting followed by the cops as I got lost looking for St. Mels, just in time to see our notional first team troop off to be replaced by a load of players none of us had ever seen before and shaking our heads at the absurdity of it all; at the same time feeling oddly like it was some kind of privilege - at least we can say we saw Domernack score this year!

**Gareth** · 06/05/2005, 12:52 PM

I got lost going to Athlone's St Mel's too for a friendly. Not the best place to get lost. Not at all.

**ThatGuy** · 06/05/2005, 1:09 PM

I have put it on the Danger Here message board, which is occupied by barstoolers.

Of course those geniuses will dismisss it.

I have the link to that thread and another one started by some geezer which is relevant to it...

http://dangerhere.com/forum/viewtopi...82d7f8db2b3311

http://dangerhere.com/forum/viewtopi...82d7f8db2b3311

**hamish** · 06/05/2005, 2:59 PM

Footiepersons, I know I'm from Culchieville and a bit slow but would somebody explain what the fcuk this Micky Neville hair thing is about!!!

**Slash/ED** · 06/05/2005, 3:13 PM

Originally Posted by ThatGuy

I have put it on the Danger Here message board, which is occupied by barstoolers.

Of course those geniuses will dismisss it.

I have the link to that thread and another one started by some geezer which is relevant to it...

http://dangerhere.com/forum/viewtopi...82d7f8db2b3311

http://dangerhere.com/forum/viewtopi...82d7f8db2b3311

Vintage Dangerhere replies, total crap.

**fosterdollar** · 06/05/2005, 3:22 PM

Barstoolers are an awful bunch to crack. I've had replies varying from "you are getting gayer by the week" to "yeah, but we call it the GAA not some crappy soccer match". Incidently the guy with the sexuality complex is going home this weekend to get blond highlights put in his hair

and the other comment is from a fella who nearly cried when he saw his liverpool go through to the CL final.

**monutdfc** · 06/05/2005, 3:34 PM

Originally Posted by Slash/ED

Vintage Dangerhere replies, total crap.

Actually, it's sort of funny watching them resort to "humour"/sarcasm to justify why they support ManU/Liverpool/whoever...
...helped while away Friday afternoon for me anyway.

**BohDiddley** · 06/05/2005, 4:08 PM

Poor old ThatGuy was taking a lone pasting from the silly brigade -- not on logic but on sheer weight of numbers. Usual dimwits claiming all EL supporters are scum/ I'll support who I like when I like nonsense.
I was tempted to wade in but couldn't get excited enough to register. But I really would like to know the answer to this:
Do real English supporters in real English cities and towns not really despise this bunch of pretenders? ManU is often talked down by rival fans for having 'supporters' from London and from China, as is Liverpool.
Do these people never get flak on this, or is it silent, patronising take-their-ticket-money contempt?

**Derek** · 06/05/2005, 11:29 PM

Good stuff, I put it on our club site.

http://www.stpaulsartanefc.com/StPau...linesStart.asp

**CollegeTillIDie** · 07/05/2005, 8:54 AM

Originally Posted by sirhamish

Footiepersons, I know I'm from Culchieville and a bit slow but would somebody explain what the fcuk this Micky Neville hair thing is about!!!

Basically it is about the highs and lows of getting your football live and in person in the fresh air in Golden Pond or whatever venue in the EL you choose,in spite of the alleged lack of quality fare on view,
rather than "supporting" some foreign team that 97% of those who wear the shirts will never ever go near!
I will lay my cards on the table . The worst soccer game I have ever seen was shown on RTE one Saturday afternoon in the 1980's when they used to show them half an hour after they started in full.
It was in the Old First Division ( now called the Premiership) between
Luton Town and Sheffield Wednesday. It wasn't the fact that it was a 0-0 draw, some of them can be highly entertaining! It was mind-numbingly awful.

If that had been my very first exposure to football ( the real one) rather than the LOI game I was brought to back in 1972. I would not be a football fan at all today. I might have watched the odd World Cup game of European Cup Final but that would have been the size of it.

**CollegeTillIDie** · 07/05/2005, 9:01 AM

Originally Posted by Magoo

Barstoolers are an awful bunch to crack. I've had replies varying from "you are getting gayer by the week" to "yeah, but we call it the GAA not some crappy soccer match". Incidently the guy with the sexuality complex is going home this weekend to get blond highlights put in his hair

and the other comment is from a fella who nearly cried when he saw his liverpool go through to the CL final.

Magoo

Do you think this would work?
Me to barstooler: " Who is your favourite team then?"
Barstooler: Some old FA Premier muck does it matter FC
Me to barstooler:" How often have you seen them play in person?"
Me to barstooler: " I recently went to my 800th game following my team!