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    Post stolen from Shels message board

    Quality post from Mick Neville's hair over on Shels message board
    I just sent a message to another forum chastising them for their obsessions about English football that I thought I would share with some like minded souls.


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    The problem with Irish people is that they are convinced that football is one big aesthetic spectacle and they forget the underlying social dynamics that people in the stadium come to love. This is simply because they rarely if ever go to games and when they do they tend to be one-offs, internationals, trips to England, whatever. The outcome is that they have this expectation of what football is all about which jars with the reality of people who are at games week in, week out. As such the idea of loving fast flowing, fast passing, dribbling, look Mum no hands football is all the rage in Ireland. But this is what happens when TV selects the best game to show, then normally they see the highlights and forget that while, as Brian Clough used to say, 'it only takes a second to score a goal', it takes 89 minutes and 59 seconds to do everything else. Whilst Real and Barce are playing beautiful football in Spain, what about Malaga versus Albacete? That's football too and whilst not very interesting for the likes of yourself is really just as important as every other Spanish league game.

    For the vast majority of football fans, the quality of the football is besides the point. Most teams have cycles and rarely dominate over the long-term (unless its Celtic and Rangers and that's even more boring) so over the course of supporting a team, you eventually see them play bad football in some armpit of the country, desperately defending to earn a 0-0 draw, whilst it is raining and freezing cold. It isn't the football that keeps the fans warm, it is the love of being there. Then when your team does produce great football and achieves at the highest level, it is a glorious feeling that the people there will remember for the rest of their lives.

    So yes football is being raped but not by negative tactics of Greece and co. but by the armchair brigade, the prawn sandwichers and the band wagoners who drive (or are driven by) the BSKYB agenda of football where it is all transcendent, all of the time. Well it isn't about that, its about being part of a club and a community of people with shared values and dreams, its about going to football matches on your wife's birthday, its about telling all your house guests to be quiet whilst you listen to the results on the radio, its about booting down motorways in a foul temper because you are about to miss the first five minutes of the game which is a mid-table clash, its about blowing all your money on traveling to games.

    We believe in all this ****** that we are the best supporters in the world - let me tell you a truth - we are the worst. Why did Ireland exceed other countries in looking for World Cup match tickets? Because football supporters in other countries spend all their money to games week in, week out - traveling up and down their country watching bad football games but loving every second of it whilst we sit here and sneer at our own game which incidentally is getting better all the time despite the smug eliteness of the Anglophones who live in our little island.

    So all of you Anglophones who are so worried about the state of English football and to a lesser extent the upper echelons of the Champions League participants, please remember that Shelbourne are playing Finn Harps this Friday. It will no doubt be a bad football game in the aesthetic spectacle idea that impresses you all but in the wider existence of football for those clued in to the spirit of supporting games, it is what the weekend is all about.

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    Eanna, I think once we all support the league, we certainly have that post in common, greater than any rivalry is our united support for our league!!!
    Class post. Real quality. Put it in for Post of the Month!!!

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    Definitly Post of the Month.Absolute class i'm going to print it out right now and ask all of my friends who are Premiersh*t to have a read,i don't expect to convert all of them but if i just convert 1 it will be a massive result.

    Thank you Mickey Neville's Hair.

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    im afraid you had me right up to the recommendation to take in shels and harps at the end......nice try buddy ..... but no dice

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    Post of the Month? You're havin' a laugh!!!!. That's the best post I've EVER read!!!!. The best description ever written of what it's all about.

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    Wonderful post. Astonishing given the misguided choice of club.
    -- should go to a newspaper with it.

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    Lads lets not turn this into a rivalry thing, it doesn't matter who he supports were all fighting the common enemy on this one.

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    Brilliant post, one of the best ive ever seen here, should be printed on every national newspaper and TV channel.

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    Excellent post.

    Maybe someone should convince Malcolm Glazer and his like that this is what it's really about and not about making big bucks with a show biz enterprise.

    PS I think he means Anglophiles; an Anglophone is someone who speaks English

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    That is fcuking excellent. That is by far the best that I've read here but here isn't adequate. Most people reading it won't be armchair supporters but real eL supporters. It should be posted somewhere where it can be viewed by the wider public - the other people.

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    Agreed!!

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    I've been posting links to it all over
    POTM (though does that go to Eanna or Mick Neville's Hair?)
    Cork City: Making 'Dream Team' seem realistic since 2007.

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    Mick Nevilles Hair Especially as the work he puts into his avatars is nothing short of spectalar. Hope your posting links to the Shels original posting *plug board* hehe

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    Way to go, Eanna. Post has everything, intelligence/articulate etc but, most importantly HEART. Don't know you but your love/support/loyalty for OUR game here really gave me a buzz!!
    Top man.

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    I suggest mailing this post to your fellow premiership workers tomorrow and post teh reactions you get. Interesting social experiment.

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    Mickey Neville's hair bravo young man.....

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    Thumbs up Well Said!

    Great post Mick Neville's Hair. Post of the month, year! Best post ever?
    If you don't like John 3:7...
    There's always Limerick 37!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gareth
    Mick Nevilles Hair Especially as the work he puts into his avatars is nothing short of spectalar. Hope your posting links to the Shels original posting *plug board* hehe
    I'm even telling them to click google ads
    Cork City: Making 'Dream Team' seem realistic since 2007.

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    tiktok, I think your my favouritest cork fan ever!! Your going to lose creditablity soon with the others hehe

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    Quote Originally Posted by REVIP
    Excellent post.

    Maybe someone should convince Malcolm Glazer and his like that this is what it's really about and not about making big bucks with a show biz enterprise.
    There no amount of persuasion that would change the minds of money-hungry bsatards like Mr. Glazier or Abromavich. They don't give a sh!t about what's played on the pitch but more about whats played in the boardroom.
    Looking at the extent money has grabbed the game recently it's an easy way to make money. Not that the bsatards need it anyway, hungry cnuts.

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