Munster Senior League

**boiled egg** · 22/02/2012, 9:08 AM

Well if every team tried to sign every good player in the league it might be a different story. out of avondales squad its hard to say who actually played schoolboys with the club. the hole team are blow-ins from different clubs, bar mybe 1 or 2. Whats happening to the players coming through the youths, are they just told to leave or do they have a choice..??

**Chiefscout** · 22/02/2012, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by boiled egg

Well if every team tried to sign every good player in the league it might be a different story. out of avondales squad its hard to say who actually played schoolboys with the club. the hole team are blow-ins from different clubs, bar mybe 1 or 2. Whats happening to the players coming through the youths, are they just told to leave or do they have a choice..??

You were spot on egg with your original FULL post..the truth hurts.

**AvondaleNutter** · 22/02/2012, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by boiled egg

Well if every team tried to sign every good player in the league it might be a different story. out of avondales squad its hard to say who actually played schoolboys with the club. the hole team are blow-ins from different clubs, bar mybe 1 or 2. Whats happening to the players coming through the youths, are they just told to leave or do they have a choice..??

It says your club is Rockmount on your profile boiled egg and it was Avondale Last week? Well if you support either team you can't question blow ins as both clubs are guilty of it..

This comes up all the time and it would be nice to have a squad full of local lads but theres no club out there that would turn away the players that avondale have brought in just because they're not local.
Whether they were asked or they came down to the club themselves it makes no difference. No one held a gun to their head and they wanted to play for Avondale Football club.

Avondale are lucky that they are in a position to attract some of Corks best and fair play to them. Before John Caulfield took over, they were struggling in the First Div and now they're one of Ireland's best.

Think a lot of clubs would like to be in this position.

**boiled egg** · 22/02/2012, 2:33 PM

I changed my profile to rockmount because i dont want everyone to know wat club im wit. the club could have stayed loyal to their own players instead of going away hunting for better ones. Avondale might as well have no youth set up as they dont use it. i think clubs would rather be in a position to have a squad full of players who are actually "club" players rather than blow ins, isnt this what local football is about.. ? playing for your friends and family..! It means nothing to me who plays for what team but its just sad when you see teams packing their team.

**BillysBoots1** · 22/02/2012, 3:42 PM

Originally Posted by boiled egg

I changed my profile to rockmount because i dont want everyone to know wat club im wit. the club could have stayed loyal to their own players instead of going away hunting for better ones. Avondale might as well have no youth set up as they dont use it. i think clubs would rather be in a position to have a squad full of players who are actually "club" players rather than blow ins, isnt this what local football is about.. ? playing for your friends and family..! It means nothing to me who plays for what team but its just sad when you see teams packing their team.

Oh get a grip lads your argument is boring, this is the MSL not the Premier league. Having a youth system is a bonus at this level but not all clubs have the support and structure to make the most of youngs players that past through their club. College Cors prob have had best underage system for the last 10-15 years and they have had little or no success in the Senior leagues in the last 10 years. I reckon it's alot to do with who's in charge of the team, how good the training is, Rockmount & Avondale know how to attract players by keep them happy in training and by being part of a winning mentality.

Besides Avondale or Rockmount how many teams have won the Premier MSL in the last 10 years?

**Sparky** · 22/02/2012, 3:45 PM

Originally Posted by boiled egg

I changed my profile to rockmount because i dont want everyone to know wat club im wit. the club could have stayed loyal to their own players instead of going away hunting for better ones. Avondale might as well have no youth set up as they dont use it. i think clubs would rather be in a position to have a squad full of players who are actually "club" players rather than blow ins, isnt this what local football is about.. ? playing for your friends and family..! It means nothing to me who plays for what team but its just sad when you see teams packing their team.

This is not about glory hunters or packing teams. The beauty of football over GAA is the freedom to move club. If players are loyal to their local teams then you will only have 11-14 players happy. What about the other 5 or 6 that want to play for their local team?

In football Managers/Coaches and Players will always move on. Is there anything wrong with trying to better yourself? I commend a player or coach for getting out of comfort zones to better themselves. Avondale have the pick of cork at the moment but I believe it is more the player wanting to join rather than the club wanting the player to join?

This argument will never be agreed on, it is like the whole aul vs msl episode. I think people are jumping the gun too picking the winner of the Intermediate cup. Crumlin were favourites at the start!!!!!!!

**Silly Billy G** · 22/02/2012, 4:01 PM

Originally Posted by BillysBoots1

Oh get a grip lads your argument is boring, this is the MSL not the Premier league. Having a youth system is a bonus at this level but not all clubs have the support and structure to make the most of youngs players that past through their club. College Cors prob have had best underage system for the last 10-15 years and they have had little or no success in the Senior leagues in the last 10 years. I reckon it's alot to do with who's in charge of the team, how good the training is, Rockmount & Avondale know how to attract players by keep them happy in training and by being part of a winning mentality.

Besides Avondale or Rockmount how many teams have won the Premier MSL in the last 10 years?

1- Castleview that i know of. Mostly with lads from their youth set up etc too, under Pasty. Did they win the 1st Division and Premier in quick succession ? I had only started playing in the MSL and castleview were part of the top 3 with Avondale and Rockmount. I cant remember any other team winning the league - that is since 2003 or 2004 now i think. Memory getting bad !

**AvondaleNutter** · 22/02/2012, 5:43 PM

Originally Posted by redandwhite

egg i assume there 7 or 8 avondale schoolboys playing senior premier with other clubs? i mean who are these 'avondale' players that avondale are not using at the top of the senior league because they have brought outsiders in? i dont understand why people bark on about loyalty etc etc...transfers have been in football since day one so its not like its a new rule...it swings in roundabouts usually with some clubs gaining other clubs losing at different stages..the main ideal for longterm success is to develop ur own underage structure whilst also attracting good players to all levels of your club..its called a balancing act i think

Well said now let's put it to bed

**boiled egg** · 22/02/2012, 6:38 PM

Well i think avondale got this balancing act totally wrong redandwhite. Look enough said, if avondale want to run their club that way then so be it, just feel sorry on the youth players trying to break through..!

**boiled egg** · 22/02/2012, 6:41 PM

There must be a blanket over some peoples eyes chiefscout...!

**Chiefscout** · 22/02/2012, 8:18 PM

Originally Posted by boiled egg

There must be a blanket over some peoples eyes chiefscout...!

Or maybe afraid to upset a certain Avondale man on here..I mean cork city man :-)

**the hawk** · 22/02/2012, 8:25 PM

Originally Posted by boiled egg

There must be a blanket over some peoples eyes chiefscout...!

jealousy is a terrible thing .This time last year everybody was harping on rockmount this and rockmount , now its avondale s turn

**AvondaleNutter** · 22/02/2012, 8:33 PM

Originally Posted by boiled egg

I changed my profile to rockmount because i dont want everyone to know wat club im wit. the club could have stayed loyal to their own players instead of going away hunting for better ones. Avondale might as well have no youth set up as they dont use it. i think clubs would rather be in a position to have a squad full of players who are actually "club" players rather than blow ins, isnt this what local football is about.. ? playing for your friends and family..! It means nothing to me who plays for what team but its just sad when you see teams packing their team.

What is your club boiled egg? Why do you have to hide it?

**razor** · 22/02/2012, 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Chiefscout

Or maybe afraid to upset a certain Avondale man on here..I mean cork city man :-)

Glad you clarified that one Chief

, don't anyone be afraid of upsetting me, I can take care of myself but there are rules on this forum and like most rules in life they are there for a reason.

**Crosshaven AFC** · 23/02/2012, 11:55 AM

Congrats to all at Crosshaven on being voted FAI Club of the Month - they now go forward to club of the year in July.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WV3vp...H0_CEZEI2ugUDr-

**Goggs** · 23/02/2012, 4:44 PM

How in God's name are Crosshaven voted club of the month their rock bottom of the 2nd Division its as ludicrous as voting Brendan O Connell intermediate player of the year what a joke.

**el nino coro** · 23/02/2012, 4:50 PM

Originally Posted by Goggs

How in God's name are Crosshaven voted club of the month their rock bottom of the 2nd Division its as ludicrous as voting Brendan O Connell intermediate player of the year what a joke.

Absolute madness with that intermediate player of the year

**beautiful game** · 23/02/2012, 6:12 PM

Full match report from tomorrow night's eagerly awaited Donie Forde semi-final in Moneygourney between Douglas Hall and Avondale United on www.backofthenetcork.ie shortly after the game.

Can't see Avondale losing this either.

Anybody out there fancy Douglas Hall to beat them?

**Southsider** · 23/02/2012, 8:06 PM

Originally Posted by beautiful game

Full match report from tomorrow night's eagerly awaited Donie Forde semi-final in Moneygourney between Douglas Hall and Avondale United on www.backofthenetcork.ie shortly after the game.

Can't see Avondale losing this either.

Anybody out there fancy Douglas Hall to beat them?

Didn't see much this year of Avondale but with the team they have they should get to the first of quiet a few cup finals before May.
Website is looking great aswell beautiful game keep up the good work with it and hopefully the magazine aswell. It's great seeing local football put across by people who they know what there talking about unlike here sometimes.

**ballsac7** · 23/02/2012, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by Goggs

How in God's name are Crosshaven voted club of the month their rock bottom of the 2nd Division its as ludicrous as voting Brendan O Connell intermediate player of the year what a joke.

Its based on involvement in the community, number of FAI coaches, facilities, website, constitution, charity work, history, players in development squads etc etc .... Fair play to them - it had nothing to do with Senior team. Rockmount and Carrigaline won it previously. You obviously didnt bother to look up the details of the award!