Beecher Networks - Web Development, Hosting & Domains
Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 83

Thread: 2030 FIFA World Cup Ireland/UK Joint Bid

  1. #1
    International Prospect NeverFeltBetter's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Gouldavoher
    Posts
    5,175
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    259
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    812
    Thanked in
    581 Posts

    2030 FIFA World Cup Ireland/UK Joint Bid

    Did we have a thread on this? Always seemed very fanciful idea to me (English trying to get round their unpopularity by framing a bid as an historic cooperation) but regardless, looks to be stillborn: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...a-speculation/

    It would require all of UEFA's support (so it would have to be the only bid from UEFA), and it looks like FIFA are lining things up for PR China anyway. Had to laugh at this part especially, emphasis mine:

    But speaking to reporters in Paris after his unopposed re-election as FIFA boss, Infantino confirmed the rumours that have been circulating in recent months: the regulations for 2030 could be ripped up, paving the way for a blockbuster bid from China.


    Asked for an update on the rules and timeline for the bidding process, the Swiss-Italian said: "I don't know because these decisions are taken by (FIFA's ruling) council and we will discuss this at our next meeting in October, which is in Shanghai.
    Edit: Honestly, think how Euro 2020 goes will be very telling. If it is a success, why couldn't UEFA make a continental bid for the tournament?
    Last edited by NeverFeltBetter; 05/06/2019 at 4:19 PM.
    Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).

  2. Thanks From:


  3. #2
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    4,497
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    8,018
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    791
    Thanked in
    549 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Did we have a thread on this? Always seemed very fanciful idea to me (English trying to get round their unpopularity by framing a bid as an historic cooperation) but regardless, looks to be stillborn: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...a-speculation/

    It would require all of UEFA's support (so it would have to be the only bid from UEFA), and it looks like FIFA are lining things up for PR China anyway. Had to laugh at this part especially, emphasis mine:



    Edit: Honestly, think how Euro 2020 goes will be very telling. If it is a success, why couldn't UEFA make a continental bid for the tournament?
    FIFA should never have crossed the Americans by giving the World cups to Russia and Qatar and then being stupid enough to do some of their Financial (dodgy ) Transactions through America .

    Fook with the Americans and be that stupid and you get fooked by the Americans .

  4. Thanks From:


  5. #3
    Seasoned Pro Kingdom's Avatar
    Joined
    Sep 2004
    Location
    Teeing off
    Posts
    4,975
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    6,466
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,058
    Thanked in
    622 Posts
    So, the 2026 is going to MEXCANUSA, and I know there is the potential romantic story of Argentina and Uruguay hosting the centenary championship (possibily with Paraguay tagged in). Personally, I'd prefer that option. Then let it pave the way for a United/Ireland bid in 2034.
    Here they come! It’s the charge of the “Thanks” Brigade!

  6. #4
    Biased against YOUR club pineapple stu's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2002
    Location
    In the long grass
    Posts
    38,099
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2,663
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4,893
    Thanked in
    3,197 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Edit: Honestly, think how Euro 2020 goes will be very telling. If it is a success, why couldn't UEFA make a continental bid for the tournament?
    Qualification would be a nightmare. It's just about doable with 24 qualifiers, and even that means that some hosts won't qualify. With what - 16? - European countries in the expanded World Cup, you'd have even more missing out, and even more daft draw rules

  7. #5
    International Prospect NeverFeltBetter's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Gouldavoher
    Posts
    5,175
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    259
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    812
    Thanked in
    581 Posts
    Planning for this "ramping up": https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...-bid-credible/

    Idea seems to be England to do most of the hosting, with Cardiff, Glasgow and Dublin (Aviva and Croke Park) also involved (no mention of the north, because I suppose one of the positives of such a bid is that the stadiums are ready to go).

    Still seems fanciful to me. I can't help but think it would be England's World Cup with the neighbours just helping out a bit for appearances sake. And there are other bids that will be more attractive to FIFA, be it the "centenary" option or, more likely, China PR once they get the pesky rules changed.
    Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).

  8. #6
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    4,497
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    8,018
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    791
    Thanked in
    549 Posts
    How big of a Joint have the FAI been smoking !

    Anyone that would get into a deal / or bed with the FAI would need their head examined !

  9. #7
    Biased against YOUR club pineapple stu's Avatar
    Joined
    Aug 2002
    Location
    In the long grass
    Posts
    38,099
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    2,663
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4,893
    Thanked in
    3,197 Posts
    You'd wonder how much of it is a smokescreen for other issues...

  10. Thanks From:


  11. #8
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    2,827
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    126
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,033
    Thanked in
    717 Posts
    This looks like it will be going to China. The FA would probably be better accepting that and going for 2034. Not convinced the South American bit would go far, those countries probably don't have the financial backing to host a 48 team tournament so a UK+I bid might be a goer at some point.

    I take it we'd qualify automatically as hosts? Would NI also qualify even though they wouldn't host any games?
    Keane O'Shea Given Best Smallbone

  12. #9
    Capped Player DeLorean's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Hill Valley
    Posts
    10,894
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4,418
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,280
    Thanked in
    2,081 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    I take it we'd qualify automatically as hosts? Would NI also qualify even though they wouldn't host any games?
    They'll be doing well to still exist.

  13. Thanks From:


  14. #10
    First Team TonyD's Avatar
    Joined
    May 2004
    Location
    Planet Football
    Posts
    2,472
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    242
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    363
    Thanked in
    230 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    How big of a Joint have the FAI been smoking !

    Anyone that would get into a deal / or bed with the FAI would need their head examined !
    Indeed. I don't know why England can't go for a solo bid. They've easily got the stadia. More than enough. Look at London alone, Wembley, Emirates, Spurs stadium, West Ham (Olympic stadium).
    Last edited by TonyD; 06/12/2019 at 7:26 PM.
    Out for a spell, got neglected, lay on the bench unselected.

  15. Thanks From:


  16. #11
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    2,827
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    126
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,033
    Thanked in
    717 Posts
    The criteria seem to be all stadiums having a capacity of at least 40,000 and no more than three stadiums in one city to be used.

    Based on those requirements England can't host it by themselves as things stand. Obviously they could upgrade stadiums around the country to the required size though.
    Keane O'Shea Given Best Smallbone

  17. #12
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    4,497
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    8,018
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    791
    Thanked in
    549 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    The criteria seem to be all stadiums having a capacity of at least 40,000 and no more than three stadiums in one city to be used.

    Based on those requirements England can't host it by themselves as things stand. Obviously they could upgrade stadiums around the country to the required size though.
    How many stadiums do you need ?

  18. #13
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    2,827
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    126
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,033
    Thanked in
    717 Posts
    USA/Canada/Mexico are using 16.
    Keane O'Shea Given Best Smallbone

  19. #14
    Capped Player SkStu's Avatar
    Joined
    Feb 2007
    Posts
    13,932
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    3,354
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    4,779
    Thanked in
    2,612 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    USA/Canada/Mexico are using 16.
    Based on the criteria you’ve shared, England only has 10 stadium options.

    London x 3
    Manchester x 2
    Liverpool x 2
    North East x 2
    Birmingham x 1

    They’d have 3 more in Scotland and 1 in Wales.
    Last edited by SkStu; 07/12/2019 at 4:06 PM.

  20. #15
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    2,827
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    126
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,033
    Thanked in
    717 Posts
    Yes, throw in the two in Dublin and that's your 16. Although I'm not sure if they'd use both Liverpool stadiums given they are only half a mile apart.
    Keane O'Shea Given Best Smallbone

  21. #16
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Dec 2007
    Posts
    4,497
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    8,018
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    791
    Thanked in
    549 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Yes, throw in the two in Dublin and that's your 16. Although I'm not sure if they'd use both Liverpool stadiums given they are only half a mile apart.
    The games would not have to be played at the same time in those stadiums half a mile apart .

  22. #17
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    2,504
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    21
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    626
    Thanked in
    479 Posts
    the brits would need to be on crack cociane to let the FAI join their bid

  23. Thanks From:


  24. #18
    Capped Player DeLorean's Avatar
    Joined
    Jun 2008
    Location
    Hill Valley
    Posts
    10,894
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    4,418
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    3,280
    Thanked in
    2,081 Posts
    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    The criteria seem to be all stadiums having a capacity of at least 40,000 and no more than three stadiums in one city to be used.

    Based on those requirements England can't host it by themselves as things stand. Obviously they could upgrade stadiums around the country to the required size though.
    These were the proposed venues (x15) for their failed 2018/2022 bid - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Englan...Cup_bid#Venues

    Couple of mad ones there with Milton Keynes & Plymouth!

    The bid deserved to fail for their logo alone.


  25. #19
    International Prospect NeverFeltBetter's Avatar
    Joined
    Apr 2012
    Location
    Gouldavoher
    Posts
    5,175
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    259
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    812
    Thanked in
    581 Posts
    Back in the news today, with the government announcing a feasibility study: https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/202...fifa-2030-bid/

    I mean, we'd be hosting a handful of game in two stadiums at most. I don't know if feasibility is in question. The attractiveness of the bid next to the South American or Eastern European equivalents is, not to mention the possibility of China being an option.
    Author of Never Felt Better (History, Film Reviews).

  26. #20
    Seasoned Pro
    Joined
    Apr 2004
    Location
    Glasgow
    Posts
    2,827
    Thanks Thanks Given 
    126
    Thanks Thanks Received 
    1,033
    Thanked in
    717 Posts
    I'd imagine this can be filed with Boris Island and the tunnel from Scotland to Ireland as more PR nonsense from the UK government.

    If they were serious about actually winning it they'd go for 2034, there are too many reasons for FIFA to go elsewhere for 2030.

    Put it alongside Scotland/Ireland Euro 2008 and the Irish 2023 RWC as things that sound great but didn't/won't actually happen.
    Keane O'Shea Given Best Smallbone

  27. Thanks From:


Page 1 of 5 123 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •