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    2030 FIFA World Cup Ireland/UK Joint Bid

    Did we have a thread on this? Always seemed very fanciful idea to me (English trying to get round their unpopularity by framing a bid as an historic cooperation) but regardless, looks to be stillborn: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...a-speculation/

    It would require all of UEFA's support (so it would have to be the only bid from UEFA), and it looks like FIFA are lining things up for PR China anyway. Had to laugh at this part especially, emphasis mine:

    But speaking to reporters in Paris after his unopposed re-election as FIFA boss, Infantino confirmed the rumours that have been circulating in recent months: the regulations for 2030 could be ripped up, paving the way for a blockbuster bid from China.


    Asked for an update on the rules and timeline for the bidding process, the Swiss-Italian said: "I don't know because these decisions are taken by (FIFA's ruling) council and we will discuss this at our next meeting in October, which is in Shanghai.
    Edit: Honestly, think how Euro 2020 goes will be very telling. If it is a success, why couldn't UEFA make a continental bid for the tournament?
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Did we have a thread on this? Always seemed very fanciful idea to me (English trying to get round their unpopularity by framing a bid as an historic cooperation) but regardless, looks to be stillborn: https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...a-speculation/

    It would require all of UEFA's support (so it would have to be the only bid from UEFA), and it looks like FIFA are lining things up for PR China anyway. Had to laugh at this part especially, emphasis mine:



    Edit: Honestly, think how Euro 2020 goes will be very telling. If it is a success, why couldn't UEFA make a continental bid for the tournament?
    FIFA should never have crossed the Americans by giving the World cups to Russia and Qatar and then being stupid enough to do some of their Financial (dodgy ) Transactions through America .

    Fook with the Americans and be that stupid and you get fooked by the Americans .

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    So, the 2026 is going to MEXCANUSA, and I know there is the potential romantic story of Argentina and Uruguay hosting the centenary championship (possibily with Paraguay tagged in). Personally, I'd prefer that option. Then let it pave the way for a United/Ireland bid in 2034.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter View Post
    Edit: Honestly, think how Euro 2020 goes will be very telling. If it is a success, why couldn't UEFA make a continental bid for the tournament?
    Qualification would be a nightmare. It's just about doable with 24 qualifiers, and even that means that some hosts won't qualify. With what - 16? - European countries in the expanded World Cup, you'd have even more missing out, and even more daft draw rules

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    Planning for this "ramping up": https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...-bid-credible/

    Idea seems to be England to do most of the hosting, with Cardiff, Glasgow and Dublin (Aviva and Croke Park) also involved (no mention of the north, because I suppose one of the positives of such a bid is that the stadiums are ready to go).

    Still seems fanciful to me. I can't help but think it would be England's World Cup with the neighbours just helping out a bit for appearances sake. And there are other bids that will be more attractive to FIFA, be it the "centenary" option or, more likely, China PR once they get the pesky rules changed.
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    How big of a Joint have the FAI been smoking !

    Anyone that would get into a deal / or bed with the FAI would need their head examined !

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    You'd wonder how much of it is a smokescreen for other issues...

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    This looks like it will be going to China. The FA would probably be better accepting that and going for 2034. Not convinced the South American bit would go far, those countries probably don't have the financial backing to host a 48 team tournament so a UK+I bid might be a goer at some point.

    I take it we'd qualify automatically as hosts? Would NI also qualify even though they wouldn't host any games?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    I take it we'd qualify automatically as hosts? Would NI also qualify even though they wouldn't host any games?
    They'll be doing well to still exist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by seanfhear View Post
    How big of a Joint have the FAI been smoking !

    Anyone that would get into a deal / or bed with the FAI would need their head examined !
    Indeed. I don't know why England can't go for a solo bid. They've easily got the stadia. More than enough. Look at London alone, Wembley, Emirates, Spurs stadium, West Ham (Olympic stadium).
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    The criteria seem to be all stadiums having a capacity of at least 40,000 and no more than three stadiums in one city to be used.

    Based on those requirements England can't host it by themselves as things stand. Obviously they could upgrade stadiums around the country to the required size though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    The criteria seem to be all stadiums having a capacity of at least 40,000 and no more than three stadiums in one city to be used.

    Based on those requirements England can't host it by themselves as things stand. Obviously they could upgrade stadiums around the country to the required size though.
    How many stadiums do you need ?

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    USA/Canada/Mexico are using 16.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    USA/Canada/Mexico are using 16.
    Based on the criteria you’ve shared, England only has 10 stadium options.

    London x 3
    Manchester x 2
    Liverpool x 2
    North East x 2
    Birmingham x 1

    They’d have 3 more in Scotland and 1 in Wales.
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    Yes, throw in the two in Dublin and that's your 16. Although I'm not sure if they'd use both Liverpool stadiums given they are only half a mile apart.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    Yes, throw in the two in Dublin and that's your 16. Although I'm not sure if they'd use both Liverpool stadiums given they are only half a mile apart.
    The games would not have to be played at the same time in those stadiums half a mile apart .

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    the brits would need to be on crack cociane to let the FAI join their bid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eirambler View Post
    The criteria seem to be all stadiums having a capacity of at least 40,000 and no more than three stadiums in one city to be used.

    Based on those requirements England can't host it by themselves as things stand. Obviously they could upgrade stadiums around the country to the required size though.
    These were the proposed venues (x15) for their failed 2018/2022 bid - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Englan...Cup_bid#Venues

    Couple of mad ones there with Milton Keynes & Plymouth!

    The bid deserved to fail for their logo alone.


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    Back in the news today, with the government announcing a feasibility study: https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/202...fifa-2030-bid/

    I mean, we'd be hosting a handful of game in two stadiums at most. I don't know if feasibility is in question. The attractiveness of the bid next to the South American or Eastern European equivalents is, not to mention the possibility of China being an option.
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    I'd imagine this can be filed with Boris Island and the tunnel from Scotland to Ireland as more PR nonsense from the UK government.

    If they were serious about actually winning it they'd go for 2034, there are too many reasons for FIFA to go elsewhere for 2030.

    Put it alongside Scotland/Ireland Euro 2008 and the Irish 2023 RWC as things that sound great but didn't/won't actually happen.
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