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    Quote Originally Posted by White Horse View Post
    What is the story with Forrester? He appears to be only playing in bits of games. He should be tearing the league up.
    He's just not right at all, Kenny was saying at the start of the season his fitness levels were way below the rest of the squad but even now you can see there's something wrong with him.

    What's going on with Derry btw? A month ago in Richmond they played us off the park even before the sending off and they looked like genuine title contenders but they've fallen way off since, just missing a goal scorer or is it something else?
    Here on a technicality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartySaint View Post
    He's just not right at all, Kenny was saying at the start of the season his fitness levels were way below the rest of the squad but even now you can see there's something wrong with him.

    What's going on with Derry btw? A month ago in Richmond they played us off the park even before the sending off and they looked like genuine title contenders but they've fallen way off since, just missing a goal scorer or is it something else?
    Their first game against us in Richmond, IMO, is probably the most impressive I have seen this season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack B View Post
    I've said it previously that normally I would agree with this sentiment and have acted as much, but this is a particularly special circumstance.

    We just look absolutely clueless even in games that we've won. Tonight is a case in point where if I was a neutral I'd actually feel sorry for Derry, it legitimately should have been 3/4-1. We created a solitary chance all game, scored from it and then stuck 11 behind the ball at home and hoped for the best.

    I'd have more time for Kenny if there was an obviously identity or style forming but it's obvious that he's been completely winging it since the start of the season. We played all pre-season with a 4-3-3, then after injuries dictated we played 3/5 at the back in the first game of the season he just abandoned all his previous work and stuck with it, even though it's clear we don't have the personnel for it to the point it restricts us every week. It's honestly unfair the expectations that are being put on Bermo and Madden, and for all his talk of believing in playing "an attractive brand of football" it's becoming more and more obvious that he doesn't know how to implement it, so we've now been reduced to hoping we can nick something off a set piece and then lump it up to Gary Shaw for the rest of the game. For the squad we have it's a bit depressing to be honest.
    Yeah and it's just so obvious the squad isnt made for that system.
    He only has 3 CB, CKelly is a LB who can cover but he was signed to be 2 LB and 4CB. He has only 2 first team strikers.
    And then there are many MF's who arent just getting game time because there are only 3 available spots, plus Miele and DClarke who should be wing players are disregarded because can't fit the system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by desaintsno.12 View Post
    First of all, we are a very patient fan base, always have been, some would say too much at times.
    Totally get how it looks from the outside when we give out, but its very different when you watch us week in week out. Time and time again, we look clueless, and its not just about wanting sexy bucko ball, not at all.
    We have absolutely poxed results, all starting with week one against Cork.
    Kenny is not developing anything there is nothing improving.
    I wont last too long, but sadly long enough to waste a decent squad/budget.
    Fair enough i don't see you often enough to judge things on anything other than a points basis which isnt to bad to be fair.
    In fairness to bucko he seems to have turned things around in Sligo
    In the same time period as Kenny (half a season) you could argue he has made a lot more progress in the second round of fixtures.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Fair enough i don't see you often enough to judge things on anything other than a points basis which isnt to bad to be fair.
    In fairness to bucko he seems to have turned things around in Sligo
    In the same time period as Kenny (half a season) you could argue he has made a lot more progress in the second round of fixtures.
    With a hell of a lot smaller budget.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbgawa View Post
    Fair enough i don't see you often enough to judge things on anything other than a points basis which isnt to bad to be fair.
    In fairness to bucko he seems to have turned things around in Sligo
    In the same time period as Kenny (half a season) you could argue he has made a lot more progress in the second round of fixtures.
    To be fair, it woudnt have been hard based on the last few seasons. But things are definitely moving in the right direction and people are starting to enjoy going to matches in the Showgies again, which is a big deal. A couple of decent signings mid season would help a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Complain? Of course, isnt that true of all football fans! Specifically and it could have been yerself EP there was comment or debate on Maguire 'manufacturing' penalties, and example of a relatively new skill that isnt diving - its leaving a trailing foot and the like to create contact and 'win' a penalty. Sheppard in the Cup Final, for example, cutely waited for contact from Hoare and went over and the penalty was given. Hoare should have been more aware especially as Shep was heading away from goal and was waiting for any contact. As Ive said I dont think it was one of Kenny's finer moments in trying to play mind games. Im not excluding Dundalk from the same type of gamesmanship. I am suggesting that if a team is relentlessly attacking in to the box there is likely to be a higher number of penalties awarded than a team that sits deep and maybe hits on the break - this could probably result in a higher number of professional fouls to stop a break. It seems that Bohs fans have resigned themselves to there being at least 2 refs that are biased toward Dundalk. One poor decision has set that tone and not so much the sending off and Long needing a Sheperds hook for another player that is just on the pitch. There was also scorn poured on Rovers fans ascertations that poor referring sealed the result of the last Dublin Derby. Not lastnight, but there is usually a grey area of debate on refereeing in the league and that it is inconsistant, fans dont have much faith, some refs like to be in the spotlight et al and we have all been on the recieving end of the most confusing decisions. Claiming refs have favourite clubs so far this season is highly unlikely!
    But the Cork peons would be “ok” if John Caulfield and 90% of the Cork supporters agreed with them ?
    Or does that just work with Dundalk ?

    There was no real complaints about Monday’s result (a deserved Dundalk win) but every Dundalk fan is still moaning !
    The only performance marks I saw (Irish Sun I think) gave Regba 2/10 but the ref only got 5/10, so he was hardly great (unless media are anti Dundalk &#128513

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post

    There was no real complaints about Monday’s result (a deserved Dundalk win) but every Dundalk fan is still moaning !
    The only performance marks I saw (Irish Sun I think) gave Regba 2/10 but the ref only got 5/10, so he was hardly great (unless media are anti Dundalk &#128513
    Hardly moaning about a late and important win. The cynical time wasting throughout the match and the aggressive fouling is certainly an area of fair comment.

    The ref deciding not to give Reghba a second yellow on two occasions was bizarre. 5/10 was too generous for him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartySaint View Post
    What's going on with Derry btw? A month ago in Richmond they played us off the park even before the sending off and they looked like genuine title contenders but they've fallen way off since, just missing a goal scorer or is it something else?
    I'd dare say the first game in Richmond was more a case of everything falling into place than anything else.
    We badly need a striker. We'll create any amount of chances per game, but our scoring record just isn't good enough. We could be comfortably in third position if we had that part of our game sorted.
    We're due to lose Parkhouse and Junior come the end of next month, so it's bound to be our top priority in the summer transfer window.
    I'd say we need to strengthen the defence too. We concede in most games, often from defenders being switched off or out of position, and when you've only scored seven in your last eight games, that's going to cost you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brendy_éire View Post
    I'd dare say the first game in Richmond was more a case of everything falling into place than anything else.
    We badly need a striker. We'll create any amount of chances per game, but our scoring record just isn't good enough. We could be comfortably in third position if we had that part of our game sorted.
    We're due to lose Parkhouse and Junior come the end of next month, so it's bound to be our top priority in the summer transfer window.
    I'd say we need to strengthen the defence too. We concede in most games, often from defenders being switched off or out of position, and when you've only scored seven in your last eight games, that's going to cost you.
    where are parkhouse and junior going back to club wise?
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    Quote Originally Posted by desaintsno.12 View Post
    First of all, we are a very patient fan base, always have been, some would say too much at times.
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    Definitely agree with this. As a club and a fan base we've always been very patient. Even the disaster that was Jeff K&@na didn't really get any abuse from supporters. The frustration this year ( and it is confined to online, there's been no abuse of the manager at games that I've heard) is because we looked to have signed really welll pre season, especially getting Chris Forrestor back. Whether it's the managers fault or not we have not played well, even in games we've won. We have the joint lowest amount of goals in the league, which is shocking really. Big improvement needed. The Forrestor thing is just a mystery. Apart from one moment of magic against Sligo he's been pretty much anonymous, which is a real shame when we all know how good he can be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Hardly moaning about a late and important win. The cynical time wasting throughout the match and the aggressive fouling is certainly an area of fair comment.

    The ref deciding not to give Reghba a second yellow on two occasions was bizarre. 5/10 was too generous for him.
    Dundalk complaining about time wasting and aggressive fouling ? at least you kept your sense of humour

    95th minute match winning penalty,1 red and 7 yellow cards (versus 1 home yellow) among the highest amount of 'injury time' played this season.Yes, the ref sure let Dundalk down
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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Dundalk complaining about time wasting and aggressive fouling ? at least you kept your sense of humour

    95th minute match winning penalty,1 red and 7 yellow cards (versus 1 home yellow) among the highest amount of 'injury time' played this season.Yes, the ref sure let Dundalk down

    Dalymountrower has already comment fairly accurately on the the aggressive fouling and the resultant card count - if the ref had any bottle Reghba would have had a red too. The time wasting started after only 5 minutes

    Quote Originally Posted by Dalymountrower View Post
    The only surprise is the decision to contest the game so physically.The yellow card count is disgraceful and points to a team out of control or just too in experienced to play that sort of game.
    Need to focus on our rivals for third place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    Dalymountrower has already comment fairly accurately on the the aggressive fouling and the resultant card count - if the ref had any bottle Reghba would have had a red too. The time wasting started after only 5 minutes
    Yet when anyone comments on Dundalk diving, fouling etc its 'whinging' if the ref at Dalymount had any 'bottle' Dundlak would have finished with about 7/8 players, and the opening goal would not have stood (deliberate handball in build up) but hey, maybe there is a conspiracy against Dundalk, half way through the season and ONLY 10 penalties
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    Quote Originally Posted by Martinho II View Post
    where are parkhouse and junior going back to club wise?
    Sheffield United and Colchester United respectfully.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Yet when anyone comments on Dundalk diving, fouling etc its 'whinging' if the ref at Dalymount had any 'bottle' Dundlak would have finished with about 7/8 players, and the opening goal would not have stood (deliberate handball in build up) but hey, maybe there is a conspiracy against Dundalk, half way through the season and ONLY 10 penalties
    Even Keith Long hasnt had such a whinge, indeed he wants Bohs to be more like Dundalk so more diving and fouling can be expected from Bohs kids "That's experience, that's know-how"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Even Keith Long hasnt had such a whinge, indeed he wants Bohs to be more like Dundalk so more diving and fouling can be expected from Bohs kids "That's experience, that's know-how"!
    He'd get fined if he told the truth about the sheer number of decisions that went your way in the three games.

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    Kelly is a CB who can cover at LB. Played 28 games at CB and 3 at LB for Drogheda last season.

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