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    Quote Originally Posted by holidaysong View Post
    Correct, the restrictions on Linfield fans going to Oriel were the same as the Setanta cup ties 8 years ago. However, the restrictions on Dundalk fans going to Windsor Park were relaxed. It was no longer necessary to go in the bus convoy, fans could get tickets online and make their own private travel arrangements.
    Quote Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado View Post
    Not quite true.

    Northern based Dundalk fans who couldn't make it to OP to get a bus could e-mail the club with their contact details and when then verified were able to pick up tix at WP but still had to go into the proper Dundalk section on the night.
    holidaysong is correct in that any Dundalk fan, irrespective of location, could buy an away ticket for Windsor Park and make independent travel arrangements. I bought ticket-only in person in Oriel Park without any queries and subsequently drove to Belfast for the match. There was also an online option of ticket only or ticket / bus combo. The club did express a preference that supporters would travel on an official bus, but it was not compulsory.

    The restrictions and disruption imposed on Linfield fans for the return match are a different story and were bizarre.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    holidaysong is correct in that any Dundalk fan, irrespective of location, could buy an away ticket for Windsor Park and make independent travel arrangements. I bought ticket-only in person in Oriel Park without any queries and subsequently drove to Belfast for the match. There was also an online option of ticket only or ticket / bus combo. The club did express a preference that supporters would travel on an official bus, but it was not compulsory.

    The restrictions and disruption imposed on Linfield fans for the return match are a different story and were bizarre.
    I'm referring to the 2011 meeting(Linfield v Dundalk) in my post above.

    I said in an earlier post that AGS have no clue when it comes to managing 'soccer' games.
    They've a lot to learn


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezeikial View Post
    holidaysong is correct in that any Dundalk fan, irrespective of location, could buy an away ticket for Windsor Park and make independent travel arrangements. I bought ticket-only in person in Oriel Park without any queries and subsequently drove to Belfast for the match. There was also an online option of ticket only or ticket / bus combo. The club did express a preference that supporters would travel on an official bus, but it was not compulsory.

    The restrictions and disruption imposed on Linfield fans for the return match are a different story and were bizarre.
    They have caused hassle on countless occasions since the 70s when travelling down here so best to err on the side of caution with them I think.

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    The 70's?Get a grip.Linfield have made huge strides in marginalizing sectarianism within the club.Cant completely eliminate it though. Numptys in every well supported club.70's mindset still seems to dominate down here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalymountrower View Post
    The 70's?Get a grip.Linfield have made huge strides in marginalizing sectarianism within the club.Cant completely eliminate it though. Numptys in every well supported club.70's mindset still seems to dominate down here.
    I agree but you telling me if their was no restrictions on them travelling to Dundalk, their wouldnt have been trouble from both sides?

    They only gave tickets to their members. If it was general sale all their scum woukd have travelled

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dalymountrower View Post
    The 70's?Get a grip.Linfield have made huge strides in marginalizing sectarianism within the club.Cant completely eliminate it though. Numptys in every well supported club.70's mindset still seems to dominate down here.
    Fined as recently as 2016 for sectarian chanting v Cork City. Fined again after that in 2017 after glass bottle lobbed at Leigh Griffiths, among other incidents. No ordinary support base. Special arrangements are required for them.

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    Ordinary support base for Donegal pass/ Sandy Row.They hate their fellow sect Glens men from East Belfast more than any scrotes from Dundalk.So is that a good reason to ban them from travelling in the Irish league?
    Amount of catastrophisers on this thread is bonkers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johnnie C View Post
    Fined as recently as 2016 for sectarian chanting v Cork City. Fined again after that in 2017 after glass bottle lobbed at Leigh Griffiths, among other incidents. No ordinary support base. Special arrangements are required for them.
    What does that even mean ?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dundalkfc10 View Post
    I agree but you telling me if their was no restrictions on them travelling to Dundalk, their wouldnt have been trouble from both sides?

    They only gave tickets to their members. If it was general sale all their scum woukd have travelled
    I suspect AGS didnít want them wandering around town or in the pubs. Little doubt what would happen if a crowd of Union Jack wearing fans were loose in Dundalk (or tricolor bedecked Dundalk fans in Belfast). Would be crazy not to take precautions

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    I suspect AGS didnít want them wandering around town or in the pubs. Little doubt what would happen if a crowd of Union Jack wearing fans were loose in Dundalk (or tricolor bedecked Dundalk fans in Belfast). Would be crazy not to take precautions
    Some of them wouldnt have made it out of town in fairness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dundalkfc10 View Post
    Some of them wouldnt have made it out of town in fairness.
    Thatís kinda my point 😁 better over the top policing than serious incident.
    Not sure why they (AGS) couldnít have arranged a quiet pub/hotel outside town for them to spend a few hours in but maybe no pub/hotel wanted the hassle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dundalkfc10 View Post
    Some of them wouldnt have made it out of town in fairness.
    Sounds just like AGS thinking! Would have made it out of town, without any hassle would depend as much on their behaviour than just being Linfield fans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nesta99 View Post
    Sounds just like AGS thinking! Would have made it out of town, without any hassle would depend as much on their behaviour than just being Linfield fans.
    Dundalk - a welcoming town for Union Jack draped football fans 🤔
    Would it not have been possible to ďparkĒ the away fans in a bar/hotel outside town until near kick off time ? Thatís the usual practice in the UK and a lot more palatable for away fans than a three hour coach ride around both Co Louth.

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    Not strictly true. There are only "restrictions" in place now for those that choose to avail of them. On the last few occasions we played at Solitude I have purchased a ticket for the away end and made my own way to the ground.

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    My take on this, as a Linfield supporter, is that I would love to see an AIL, but can't see it happening. Of course the circumstances have to be right for that for it to work. I want to see my club play at the highest level possible so give me a game against Rovers, Dundalk or Bohs ahead of one against Warrenpoint, Carrick or Institute.

    Of course the LOI is ahead of where we are at the minute, although I don't think as far ahead as the 6-0 scoreline suggests. I didn't bother travelling to Dundalk, thankfully, and that was solely due to the arrangements. I wasn't prepared to go through that.

    I do think it is unfortunate that this game was between us and Dundalk as it probably threw up problems that would not exist with most other teams in LOI (Derry City would be the only other problem). I have travelled to watch us against the likes of Rovers, Pats and Bohs without any major incidents, making our own way there. As for the sectarian singing, it happened. It also happened when we played Cliftonville recently. Unsavoury of course but nobody got injured.

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    Not sure where this 3 hour thing has come from. Last message I could see on it suggested they were leaving Banbridge at 5:30, which is just 1.5 hours before kickoff. At that stage surely you go straight there- it's 30-40 minute drive plus a bit of time to get everyone in and you've not a long wait in the ground. Agreed though that making them meet 3 hours early would be insane and counter-productive.

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    Now that there is the potential for a play-off final between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland in March 2020, could we consider this as great chance to promote the Union Champions Cup Competition!

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    Quote Originally Posted by marinobohs View Post
    Dundalk - a welcoming town for Union Jack draped football fans 樂
    Would it not have been possible to “park” the away fans in a bar/hotel outside town until near kick off time ? That’s the usual practice in the UK and a lot more palatable for away fans than a three hour coach ride around both Co Louth.
    Rovers are not particularly popular and managed to march through the town up to Oriel without confrontation. Not exactly the same but with a police escort as happened prior the that LC final would help mitigate against issues. Aberdeen fans in one group being escorted from Dublin city centre out to Tolka is another example and they had their Union flags albeit not with the same background as a Rangers. Yup it only takes one muppet so maybe prudent to be extra cautious of course but at some point the possibility of a group of supporters from traditionaly Unionist clubs in town prematch will happen. As for bars toward the town, is there one that's suitable, isnt more contentious than town centre ish,ie being in either in South Armagh or Down, North Louth. Lisdoo maybe!? large function rooms and parking for busses. Nah maybe just cans on the bus and go straight to the ground!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Now that there is the potential for a play-off final between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland in March 2020, could we consider this as great chance to promote the Union Champions Cup Competition!
    Do many of those that attend internationals in Windsor or the Aviva even know there are domestic Irish leagues? It certainly should be promoted as a positive cross border competition at what will be a pivitol fixture for opinion forming if the fixture comes to pass. Somehow it has that destined to happen feel!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nr637 View Post
    Now that there is the potential for a play-off final between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland in March 2020, could we consider this as great chance to promote the Union Champions Cup Competition!
    No chance Ireland get past Slovakia you mad man.
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