I am not sure if this is the right subforum, but here goes...
A few weeks ago I heard from someone I was talking about football to, that the Dublin Jewish community used to have its own football club. I was quite surprised hearing this, cause I never ever heard of it. Not impossible though, maybe they used to have their own club in the amateur leagues (Leinster Senior League i suppose ?)
Does anyone know if such club existed indeed ?
In my native Belgium teams for minority groups are not uncommon at all.
Cities such as Brussels, Ghent and Antwerp have a great number of Turkish and Moroccon immigrants, whereas the Liege region has many Spanish natives. If you go through the tables of Belgian amateur level football, you will see names such as Turkish Rangers, Istanbul Brussels, Furia Espanola, Turkish FC, Croatia Wandre, Diyanet Zaventem, Armenia Brussels, Avrasya Ghent, ...
There are two clubs of Jewish origin: Maccabi Brussels and Maccabi Antwerp.
Also there is a Turkish club in the Dutch top division of amateur football, the German fourth division has Turkiyemspor Berlin, and in Vienna there are several immigrant teams. In the US there's the rather famous Croatia SC in an amateur league somewhere in the central states.
I personally think teams like this are great, most of them are not strictly Jewish/Turkish/Spanish/whatever so they are great effords to bring people from foreign origins/cultures and local population together. Some of these clubs have gotten special awards for their work towards integration of foreigners, I think personally multicultural organisations such as these specific soccer clubs are the best way to fight racism.
Belgium also has several clubs for the Hearing Impaired (I used to go to some of these games) but the league is struggling as only a handful of clubs have enough players. Most clubs switched to indoor football as they couldn't find enough people for an outdoor team
Oh yeah, in the Brussels Capital Area's amateur league there is an Irish club, though not all players are of Irish origin. There's also British United and Brussels British.
Argentina has a few clubs with Armenian, Spanish, Italian or even English roots.
Australia used to have Croatia Sydney and Italian-origin team Marconi Stallions, until they were forced to change names as the Australian FA does no longer allow club names referring to ethnical origins.
did shelbourne not train in the maccabi ground on whitehall rd (near the KCR)in terenure d.6 ?.
it definitely existed alright.
Last edited by the 12 th man; 22/04/2005 at 6:37 PM.
Ah, interesting, I was wondering if the man that told me about it was serious on the existance...
Does it still exist, and was the club effectively named Maccabi ?? The ground still exists ?
Apart from Maccabi, no teams for "special groups" or so it seems... Unless the LSL club Verona is actually an Italian team... Haven't come across any other name indicating that they a specific community of people. Have not seen other counties' amateur league tables yet though, but I'd expect that if such clubs exist it will most likely be in multicultural Dublin, where I only see that club named Verona and may not even consist of Italians ?
Originally Posted by Gerrit
afaik its been either built on or has been sold to a developer for building on.
i pass by it frequently so i'll have a look for yeh and tell you whats there.
I know the story here. Dublin Maccabi were the Jewish soccer team in Dublin. They were around up until the mid/late nineties. They weren't very good either I might add(in the schoolboy section anyway).
They did have their own ground on Kimmage Road West and Glenmore used to play there also. It was a nice pitch too pity it was concreted over. The ground was sold to Ben Dunne and it was located where his Carlisle fitness club is now.
There was a cricket pitch there too.
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There is a couple of Russian & Romanian Teams playing in the Junior Leagues.
One Romanian Team I know of is called Romstar Rapid 2000, they play in Division 1 in the Amateur League. There is also a couple of Russian teams, I think one is called Soviet United and they play in the Leinster Junior League.
BTW, Verona arent an Italian team AFAIK. I think there based out in Blanchardstown but are just a local side that have been there for years
Last edited by stickyjoe; 26/04/2005 at 8:25 AM.
There is a team in Argentina called Vellez Sarsfield (Patrick Sarsfield). Any Irish connection there with...you know with the existence of an Irish ex-pat community in Buenos Aires, Che Guevara's Irish roots from his mother's side, John Browne from Mayo the founder of the Argentine Navy and a certain Bernardo O'Higgins next door in Chile.
Makes you wonder huh!
don't know if its true
Remember playing against Macabbi during the 80s.They had fine pitch and club house in Terenure. Glenmore also played there. Very sad to see it go. IT was something similar to the YMCA in Sandymount, who also havea cricket team. They wouldn't play football on Sunday because of their religion and brought a case agians the league who tried to make them play a cup tie on a Sunday. Verona have a nice set up but no connetion with Italy.
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I see from Monday's Junior Football supplement in the Herald that a team called Red Star, composed entirely of players with Romanian names (they could equally be Moldovan, I suppose) lost 4-2 after extra time to Belclare Celtic in the final of the Loftus Cup last weekend. They currently lie second (behind Belclare) in Division 3 Sunday of the AFL.
Aer Lingus linked up with Sport Against Racism in Ireland to form Aer Lingus/SARI, a team which drew the lion's share of its squad from the immigrant community, but the association didn't last long and they've since reverted to plain old Aer Lingus.
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Yes seen them play at start of last season, main Africans with a few Romanians, they looked very useful but were relegated before the season ended.
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AFAIK, there's a Benfica women's team around somewhere. There's also Internatzionale Kenmare. Are that SARI (sport against racism) team playing LSL as well?
No, started off last season with 2 teams. One dropped out before Xmas. The other finished off season but the club reverted to Aer Lingus with local players this season.
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I played them both in soccer and cricket. The soccer team was Maccabi as you say and the cricket team was Carlisle Cricket Team. They approached our cricket club about a merger 15 years ago because they couldn't keep going due to the decrease in the Jewish community in Dublin. We preferred to soldier on as we were but they had fantastic facilities. For our home cricket games, each player is delegated to make the sandwiches for a given match. I remember once the guy who made them for the game against Carlisle didn't know much about Jewish customs and made nothing but pork sandwiches. Very embarrassing
I played against Maccaabi in the early nineties. We were playing in the UCL at that time so I asume they were also.
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Eanna,
The Benfica team you speak about is the premier Waterford ladies side who have two teams at the mo. One plays in the LFAI Premier league which is Dublin based while the second string plays in the South East based league, AFAIK. No connection with the famous Lisbon club.
btw can anyone shed any light about Velez Sarsfield, Buenos Aires third club after Boca and River Plate. There is a strong Irish presence believe it or not in Argentina re: the Buenos Aires Hurling Club.
oh by the way there is a Church in Canada called the Waterford United Church
check it out.
http://www.kwic.com/~waterforduc/
nice to know we have God on our side.
Yes Éanna you are correct about that! Benfica Women's Soccer Club's senior team play in the Dublin Women's Soccer League Premier Division in spite of being based in Waterford. Other teams of interest in this Division are... Shamrock Rovers, UCD and Dundalk. Bray Wanderers narrowly missed out on promotion to the top Division last year and Dublin City are also one Division below the Premier. St.Patrick's Athletic have schoolgirl teams and will be entering an adult team next year when their Under 16 team goes overage for that League.
Benfica also have an Intermediate side which plays in the Wexford Premier Division and Under 16 and Under 13 teams which play in the recently merged Kilkenny/Waterford Schoolgirls League.
The Portuguese version do not have a Women's team so the Blues are the only Benfica Women's soccer team in Europe to my knowledge. Founded in 1965 this is their 40th anniversary.
In one of the lesser Leagues in Dublin there is Hot Press Moenchengladbach
The UCD Superleague used to have teams called Theyall Betis, Partizan Belfield and Kiddiemincing Harriers
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